I must say I find the pricing on these cars all over the place. I ended up with a Sep 05 BA with leather, sunroof, tint and mats for 54k drive away...so if you take the options off the car that comes down to about 48.5k Is the Auto worth an extra 10K ?? yeh maybe. How can FPV afford to discount these cars so much. If you take my 48.5k that's around a 20k discount. No wonder the price of new cars drops so much in the first 12 months. I tossed with the idea of waiting for the BF but at that time no dealer even had pricing for the BF, however I was constantly told they (FPV dealers) would not discount these cars in the 1st year of sale.. Looks like its fairly common place to get a 10k discount already. Is it that hard to get them to discount, or do they say "that will be 70k thanks" and then you simply say...."ummm what about a discount", then it's hang on I'll check. Then come back to you and its now "that will be 60k thanks" I really wonder if any poor punter has paid full wack on a new F6