Not at all, By "A Lot" I mean I want a car that is good in all aspects - as you say "dick loads of power" but I realise that without a turbo or major engine upgrades, only a bit of that can be achieved. But I'm also not like all those other typical "P-Platers"! I don't want a Nissan 200sx or a Subaru rx, I don't want a slammed car, chrome wheels (probably the last thing on my list), or a Aeroplane wing that could double as a dinner table (spoiler), and I definitely do not want a wet fart exhaust that will piss of my neighbours each day as I drive down the street. That's why I want an xr6, I want a clean, good looking car that is well known to Australians, I want good clean wheels that don't make you look like a tosser, and for an exhaust I want a deep burble that gives a bit when accelerating but otherwise just gives the performance a bit of a boost. So no I don't want a typical P-plater car and I'm glad about that. And Snake thanks for the info, gives a good aspect from a sedan point of view and will definitely take that into consideration. Oh and one more thing Phoon! Neon lights should stay in nightclubs and movies!