I like the bit in your first post where you say this post is not to debate the pro's and cons of either car, right before you go on to debate the pros and cons of both cars. I too have recently left the turbo fold, due to work circumstances I'm now driving a Territory Ghia and while it's a bloody nice car to drive I still miss my turbo I'll be back though just as soon as I have to go back to buying my own cars.