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I seen years ago Plazmaman did a lot of work with Rotormaster with cooling fuel, the fuel rail in there r100 was covered in ice and had problems keeping the throttle body from sticking ! I guess it worked they were the quickest, me thinks cool fuel big top end power hot fuel economy to a point ? could be wrong!

Hay the guy that said I should by the cheapest cooler! go get one yourself ! I own two ford xr6s a ba and a fg also own two others and two muscle cars im here to sift through the bullsh*t and work out witch cooler is best for me that is price service aesthetics fit and performance like the rest of us! Every time some one mentions a cooler the PW bandwagon gets on and bullies ppl who have decided to purchase other brands but non can tell me in engineering terms why a PW cooler works better that is a PLazmaman 1000hp verses a PW stage 3 well me being a newbie not knowing sh*t worked it out in a short period of time ! IT IS BIGGER der! plazmaman core is 490 400 x 90 and the PW is 500 x 425 x 100 !!!! not a better core but bigger!!!!! And for all you dyno junkies I would like to informed you I drive my car on the street not the dyno! and the dyno is not a true indicater what happens in the real world! and also Plazmaman have a 1800hp cooler would smack the PW cooler and weigh a fraction of the PW that is why 3 off the fastest fords use them! For all you Nizpro PWR Rapid customers you have good gear on your cars!

Hay I admit I don't know sh*t! I like the rest of us want to spend our money wisely, I just get a lot of conflicting information and I definitely am not into being a horsepower hero! just want a good all-round performing street car so I do a lot of research and talk to ppl that I think know what they are talking about, don't knock four bangers they are a good test bed! read my previous posts I am still sticking to my original post that all the PW Nizpro Rapid and plazmaman PWR coolers will do it for you, but when one supplier says they are head and shoulders better than the rest when he is using a Chinese core like the rest and make stupid clams like give one of his coolers and pay for the other, that's like buying a Ford and Expensive Daewoo giving you a car and saying if you think it is a better car they will pay for it! Don't want to bring up sh*t just logical thinking but I heard the other day Rapid is smacking Joes customers on the street with his coolers on his street tune! I I cant say that is true I was not there! ppl here are saying PW is good because he exports well PWR won a export of the year and supply nascar and red bull F1 and Plazmaman supply race teams around the world, I have looked through most of the reverent posts and it seems PW has a bee in his bonnet with both manufactures! also plazmaman has a huge amount of cores available in different configurations including Chinese bar and plates witch I think are the same core so pray tell me how can he be so much better than nizpro plazmaman rapid PWR ? BTW if you are a groupie and love the guy im sorry to upset you!

Seems like there is quite a bit of conflicting opinions here ! first this top tuner Joe, 10 second street FG xr6 and guna unleash a 9 second monster! Last few days I talked to a few, who I think are top tuners , well they go round the world tuning race cars, and most of them actually own four bangers that do low 8s and 7s and incidentally I recall seeing Plazmaman at WSID with there own 2L turbo doing low 9s and that was 8 years ago! I asked one of these tuners which cooler would be best for my 2010 FG and mentioned that there is a PW guy saying his coolers are so much better! he looked at me and laughed! He said its all in the tune and that Plazmamans new tube and fin coolers work really well he has a 600 x 300 on a race car with 420 kw he also said if you think bar and plate is better Plazmaman sell them so now the technical stuff he mentioned to the dummies like me on bar and plate coolers measure the tube thickness the distance between the tubes and count the number of fins in one inch inside and outside and if they are the same its the same core! that is if they both have the same outside dimensions, he said there is not teck to a Chinese core! unlike the American and European cores that is why no race teams use them! I did some research and Plazmaman bare and plates are much cheaper than PW Hmmmm interesting I looked at this forum to get information and ppls options so when I make my purchase it is the right one for me, more investigation coming !

How cool ! cant loose, I will buy a FG Plazmaman 1000hp cooler and PW will send me a equivalent PW cooler get it independently tested to see witch one is the more appropriate cooler for my street car and if the PW is not the one to choose for the application PW will pay for my T&F cooler! im in ! I will send PW my receipt and PW can send me the cooler!

Interesting ! maybe I may have to rethink which cooler to put on my 2010 FG turbo ! had my hart set on the Plazmaman 1000hp , being a race car nut and seeing Plazmaman just about every where to do with competition ! I will have to do some more research, will talk to some of the top race teams and tuners and see what they have to say, I know they do a enormous amount of testing! and who is Joe@cms ? what race cars does he tune? sorry but have not seen his stickers on any race cars, money is tight and I want to base my purchase on truth and not some business trying to create sales!

Oh hear we go ! lets get some facts PW Nizpro rapid and plazmaman use Chinese bare and plate cores and I would think they would work pretty similar unless you are barracking for the other team! But Plazmaman also supply tube and fin cores! After years of debating no one can say with conclusive evidence which core works better! ( one would conclude the ppl involved are not qualified to do proper and conclusive testing) but what I have noticed the majority of race cars top end sport cars and oem cars use tub and fin cores! It is easy to make power out of a xr6 turbo with plenty of room for a big cooler , all the above brands will do it for you ! Don't listen to ill informed hype or manipulated dyno results, choose with price and service and you cant go wrong!