Yer dude I hear ya I'm only a big fan of the turbo barra engines realy for a v8 I couldn't realy look past a Expensive Daewoo or chev for dollars not mass fan of the xr8s, gt iv got the silver bf typhoon r spec I only realy got it for motor and numbers affter doing research I found out Thers only seven silver Manuel's r specs made so I started surching gos bloody good but