thanks kaine, I have been doing some research and yeah you need a sensor module to run the gauges, have found a guy here to buy off for a good price, still not cheap but will be close to $1100 all up at my door. savageD, I like the defi bf's to and could get a good price on those direct from japan (bout the same as nexus) but the imperial gauges that I'd want only come in 60mm , like you said wont fit straight in!!!