You do need a manifold for twin scroll right I want, what we all want, the ultimate turbo, one that's the punchiest and most responsive that spools really quick, a turbo that will not loose power top end like GTX3572R or GT3582, I'm aiming for power range 400rkw range to 600rwk range I cant see my self ever going over that mark Not really overly interested in Strip but I intent on hitting it. more interested in track so id like the power to be there on demand but not loose puff down the straight The two turbo I think tickle my fancy is the MTA900 or EFR8374 or the EFR9180 I don't mind dump pipe issue's as Liverpool exhaust will do a complete custom exhaust but don't want a complicated fit either as Joe @ CMS is most likely to do the fit and he will charge (if he ever gets back to me with a quote) I would really like a twin scroll but not sure if its worth the extra coin has any body used those T3 to T4 converters I've seen heaps on eBay, then the range can increase again do you see my problem I came from an age where the only Turbo people used where a TO4 so in reality I now 2/3 of jack 40 years old and trying to live the dream, when most of my mates now drive station wagons and mini busses all except 2 who have EVO's