Yeah I know. Like I said it's about emotions more than common sense. If it was list price (near 50k) then I would never consider it, however the low k examples I've seen are only a couple of grand cheaper than new, if that, some are even more! Moora Ford in the WA wheatbelt are going to get back to me, they want to crunch some numbers so it seems they don't have much wiggle room. Not like the old days that's for sure. It's actually frightening that this market has got so bad.