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Maybe.. But I mean seriously... 30 seconds? are you 14? But most of the time, You'll just smile like I do thinking how yummy the e85 exhaust smells.
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Sorry Paulee, I think I forgot to answer your question. But yes. due to e85 being slower burning, it is nicer on the engine. Think of how the combustion process works, ie, the 4 strokes. Spark ignition occurs on the Compression cycle of the engine :- the piston is travelling up, So, "10" degrees of timing, means the spark plug is ignited when the crank is 10 degree's before Top dead center. Top dead center being the point of which the piston stops moving up, and almost starts to move down. With Conventional fuel, race fuel, etc, These engines are tuned to withing 1 degree of Detonation, sometimes on the edge of detonation.. Why? Because that's when they make maximum power. Now the average XR6 Turbo, with 15psi boost, making approx say 360rwkw, will have say approx 13 degree's timing, lowest being at peak torque, and highest being higher in the RPM. Bring E85 into the mix.. your timing initially could almost be doubled at WOT.. ie, 13 degree's could be 26 degrees. Now as I said earlier, with E85 being a slow burning fuel, you can add timing above where it makes its max peak power, and it wont make any more power.. ie, the timing you end up running in the engine is no longer on edge to detonating. So realistically you have quite a large amount of timing head room before the engine will detonate, which is the actual process that will blow up an engine.
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Yeah only..You forgot to mention I also took off too slow, hit rev limitor once, shifted 4th before end of 1/4 torching a band in the auto. I've tuned a number of BA engines (with my choice of correct bolt ons) to the 360-380rwkw mark. One of these however did bend a rod(didnt window the block). It was only when we pulled the engine out we noticed that the vac line from the bottom of his process west plenum had come off, which lead to his fuel pressure regulator. Which ironically his Boost gauge was also T'd into this same vac line. He told me his Boost gauge has not been working for quite a long time(we're talking 1year +). So the engine itself lasted quite some time in a lean condition as the fuel reg had no reference to the boost it was running, thus, did not rich up when on boost. I've was running approx 395-420rwkw for some time on 100 octane fuel (the lower being on my std turbo, the higher been the gt42). It was only when I re-tuned it some time last year on e85. Mind you. my car has 72k's on it, so its low kays for a BA2. I don't drive it often.. But rest assured when I do.. "I drive it".. In terms of BA's only handling with 300-330rwkw is more associated with the lack of tuning knowledge / experience workshops had when they first got the tuning software. Alot of workshops have a lot more experience / knowledge over time with tuning vehicles, so their tuning knowledge controlling the FORD Pcm has significantly improved. Coincidentally, I've seen a number of other workshops tunes, and noticed tuners have copied the Borderline Knock Table to the MBT Table. So what they've done is 1) f*ck up any possible torque calculations 2) messed up the knock detection algorithms 3) removed the ability for any corrections to alter the timing* Take note of 3). Borderline Knock table is a spark table. This is often referred to as a Base spark map. Which holds true somewhat. However. It is a Base Spark map at lambda 1, and 20c air temp. There are other spark tables which add/remove timing based on environmental conditions. There is also a spark modifier table which adds or removes timing based on Lambda value (ie, Richer or leaner fuel ratios), As well as Cam Angle. The MBT Spark table is used for a number of algorithms. Primarily the table contains the Timing for the maximum torque the motor can produce. This is typically calculated on a spread sheet with advanced mathmatics, as in the real world a engine will potentially detonate before timing reaches this number. This table is heavily used in torque calculations for torque reductions, as well as in the knock detection calculations. The MBT table is also a "maximum Clip".. Meaning, if the Borderline Spark table + any additional adders based on fuel ratio or environmental is higher than this table, it will clip it to the value in the MBT. Now referring back to 3). What they have done, is dumbed down the ford PCM. Either they've had problems where they've tuned a car, but under certain conditions its pinged, and they haven't isolated it. Tuners who do not do extensive data logging the PCM when tuning them are potentially the tuners that find themselves in this situation. So by coping the Borderline to MBT, they've essentially made the Borderline spark table the "Final" spark value table. Air temp correction, engine temp correction, etc cannot add any more spark timing to the Borderline table. So as a Con, you loose additional timing when engine is cold, air temp is cold, which the engine needs, or it would potentially cough or hiccup. As well as the fact that the torque calculations get very confused, and the knock detection fails to work. Often I see knock detection completely disabled, or have 1 or 0.5 as maximum retard) As a Pro, at least the tuner knows the car will never ping, because no correction will be allowed to add any more timing. I also often see a lot of tuners (and I mean A LOT!!!!) disable the Air Fuel ratio spark modifier table. The job of this table is to add spark as fuel ratio goes richer (ie, remember that Borderline knock table is based on the condition that Air fuel ratio must be 14.64 (lambda 1.0). My table adds as much as 6 degree's timing from when it goes from lambda 1.0, to lambda 0.8. I'm actually thinking of starting to constructively criticize the "work" of other tuners tunes I've come across. I would explain in detail why what they have done is wrong, and explain the correct method to do this. In saying this, I am open to the idea of showing the stuff I do in my own tunes. I have educated a number of tuners across Australia with a number of things regarding the ford pcm. Some who use this forum, and some who do not. SCT software does not give the ability to "read" an existing tune out of a car, But I am able to do it via my own developments. (HPTuners also allows you to read, But it lacks a large number of tables that a tuner has access to in the SCT software). At the end of the day, Any tuner can enter the correct AFR / Boost / Timing at get the most power, But don't by any means think this would be the best tuner to go to. The car could be a pig to drive, torque reduction (if they didn't disable it) will be annoying, and most noticeably, pedal response will suck big time.
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Pistons will survive all dependant on the tune. Killers on pistons are Detonation (ping). This will break the piston, ring landings. Tempreture, Usually because of lean out. Usually the piston looks like its melted. and General fatigue caused by excessive mechanical stress. ie. too much power. With std pistons, I dont see why you couldnt get 550rwkw on E85.. The std pistons are a very well designed piston, Sure, they aint forged, but they are still a good. Reason I say E85 is because its BTU heat output is nearly Half of normal Petrol. So typically things wont get as hot in the chamber as it could with Normal Petrol or Race fuel. You'll often see people talking about the cooling properties of E85, which holds very true. Given its becoming so available at the pump, I can see alot of people retuning for it. Facts I've learnt about E85... It runs cooler The fuel is a slow burning fuel, you will never hear a engine ping on e85. I mean, if your a stupid tuner, I'm sure you can make anything ping. But, you will notice it will not make any more power on the dyno if you continuely keep adding timing. To give a point of example. One tune I've done had 19psi boost, and approx 26-28degrees timing at 6000rpm with a standard turbo. More timing than that, and it stopped making power, add even more timing, it lost power.. But never heard it ping, and there was definitely no signs of it in the knock box. Speaking with one particular E85 / E99 / Methanol tuning genius who travels between america an dubai who tunes high horsepower drag racing supra's, twin turbo v8's, you name it. He laughed when I told him about the knock box. He said I was wasting my time even hooking it up. Just look at the power output. And the most important part, is E85 has the BEST smelling exhaust =)
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Tonys not selling. But he still has a vag. He's just as indecisive as a woman
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Please update the list. VIC Danny Nagy/Headsex BA XR6 Sedan Calder Park 10.300 133.72
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prefer bf3 =)
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tonight?
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Indeed.. It highlights 1) 1st to 2nd needs more shift presure 2) 2nd to 3rd = Me too slow and hitting rev limitor 3) Do not shift to 4th even if you have not crossed the finish line.
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Yeah it was. 1080p for full screen youtube... *Beep* can play it on repeat on his Big screen TV
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Can't show you guys anything without publicly spamming it can I? That was obviously on E85. Since E85 uses like 40% more fuel you need to make sure your fuel system is upto it. I've got 200lb's ID2000s, which obviously is for me to have more headroom when I turn the boost up more (currently only 18psi) I'm also running Process wests twin entry fuel rail, with twin 044 surge tank. So plenty of fuel for more power. Tuning on E85 is also quite different to normal petrol. Different fuel mixtures, Different timing. Cold start issues. Etc. I'm overall pleased with my result last night at Calder. Speaking of which....
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LOL! I installed it. Didn't Tune it!
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Yep.. Speaking of which, I need to call Phil and tell him I torched my band shifting to 4th last night Video.. THanks to ShyFrd for capturing it..
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Dont forget, Blueboost ran a 9 on a BA engine like 2 years ago... Admittingly, what I've learnt about E85 and E99 in the past year, I don't think I would have tried this on C16 or Roo ..
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Bayswater... Free.. LOL!.. No business does anything for "Free" unless they are sponsoring you. And I can assure you, they are not sponsoring *Beep*. Funny thing is, Phil has known mines been making serious power since last year (refer to date on dyno sheet). Tim (bayswater front man) likes to make his customers feel special...
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It was good having a chat with you last night. Congrats on your new PB also.. Cant believe you didnt get warned once out of your 4 or so mid 10 passes. I got warned straight away.
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Thought you said it was big pazz?
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Lol. Yeah, I Done this e85 tune last sep, adjusted it a little for united e85 as it tested to be more like e90. Single change in the PCM to adjust that. I kept it at 18psi, but wanted more psi up top to keep the torque line like a table top but unfortunatly I've only got a 7psi spring in my gate and I'm controlling boost by bleeding off the bottom port only (nothing connected to top port). As that's how the ford PCM controls boost by bleeding off. I will however hook the gate up properly and correct the boost control in the PCM so it operates in reverse. Hopefully then get more boost upto. Thanks mick. The broken diff bolt kept me off the road the longest. Lol but once I fixed it I had a mission I remember when you ran your 10.80 with 3.7 gears. You must have been turning at least 6500rpm crossing the line back then yes? Either way. Blue boost ran a 9 on stock engine, c16.. E85 is "nicer" on engines so I might see if I can get a 9 as well once I sort out my tyre/gear ratio problem. Or might just rise rev limitor to 7000rpm.. Hey mick . Lol
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I'll upload my dyno sheet when I'm infront of a pc, and when I do take notice of the date.
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Ran my car at Calder tonight. 10.300 @ 133.7 mph. 1.603 60 foot Standard Ba xr6 turbo engine bar crow valve springs. Jason Ghiller built extractors and dump Gt4294 turbo Process west twin 044 surge and fuel rail Id2000's Full exhaust Tuned by me on e85 Time slips and dyno slips and video to come 4 speed auto built by Phil at Bayswater automatics.
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Just a warning to slow down. Seeing I crossed the line in 3rd at 6400, it's pointless trying for more. Need 28" tyres or 3.25:1 diff gears. Even 3.00