Thanks Jeff, The reason I havent posted anything of substance, is that my car is only one month old, I haven't done anything to it yet, and I'm pretty much just trying to read everything on the forum, before I post any dumber questions than I have already posted! Not much substance here to post! I could say something like, "dont park your car under a tree, in which 200 cockys live, the mess is hard to clean up," or " dont drop lit cigarettes on the xr carpet, its not fireproof." that's about all I have to offer the forum at the moment! Back to the topic though, I would have thought that software to tune the factory pcm is a big deal. Isn't that what everyone is hanging on for? So does anyone know any more about it? Prolly to late for me anyway, as I think I have bought an xede. xede thread Thanks, Andrew. P.S Not having a dig Jeff, just trying to be funny.