My Dunlops went east at 41000, and have just turned over 8000 on a set of Toyo TPGU (Trampio) 235/45 17's. IMHO - heaps better in all quarters; wet, turn in, mid corner, braking, no tramlining etc etc. Better performance - and quieter. And for the price I paid for a set - I'm as happy as a ....... and the Proxes is higher spec'd. Be careful of mixing up your sizes - checking the rolling diameters and revolutions per kilometer in the tables attached. Just in case you haven't seen these - there are pdf's on each one at the Toyo.com.au site - relevant one is attached. John Proxes_20T1R.pdf