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Egas RTV to Petrol XR6T Conversion
Romulus replied to UCEOV's topic in Conversions, transplants and Frankensteins
I doubt you need a turbo PCM, just turn on turbo logic. The gas engine has the bigger conrods so why not fit up the turbo exhaust manifold and turbo and tune it on LPG? Have you seen the Turbo Taxi build on Street Machines Youtube page? I've always wondered what an LiLPG boosted setup would go like. -
Theres no point running more than 10-15psi with the stock cat back, it’s absolutely choking the exhaust. I had a Manta twin 2.5” cat back system for the SY Turbo I sold only 3 weeks ago, would have been a perfect upgrade. Until you change the cat back your pushing shyte up hill.
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After a failed attempt to wire up the RPM pickup signal for the Eboost Street I ordered a MSD 8918 GMR tach pickup. Easy fit up, I found the pink wire with the green stripe near the PCM wiring harness. Connected this to the Eboost and now am able to maintain constant boost throughout the rev range 👍Prior to this boost was dropping off from 21psi ~3000rpm to 17psi ~6000rpm. Also charged the digital Innovate MTX-L digital unit to spare MTX-AL I had. The digital unit was hanging and frequently dropping out with E8 error. Not good. I've been running a 10% Ethanol blend with 98 octane so am keen to keep an eye on the AFR's. Engine definitely seems smoother on this blend. Can't go full E85 yet until I get the surge and twin pumps installed. I've decided to go for the 6R80 trans upgrade through Rob, this is getting done in the next couple of weeks. 3-4 shift is really starting to hang with the engine just continuously spark retarding during the shift. The end of the trans is in nigh..........
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IMO the Walbro pump can't provide enough flow and/or pressure but only a pressure gauge and return flow test will confirm that. My G6ET ran out of pump on E85 around 460-470rwkw IIRC so had to upgrade to an external surge and twin pump setup. I'll check out what timing I ran in my setup for E85. Great video, but it just doesn't appear that aggressive for the boost running and fuel type, It should be savage. My G6ET on E85 would torch the tyres rolling along in 4th gear @ 21psi boost running Bridgestone RE003 tyres.
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Tell me, why is Jim shopping around for engine and trans builds then? Did his car get impounded? I heard through the grapevine someone got hoonlawed in it😲 How much boost currently on E85 and what fuel pump or pump setup do you have? I sometimes wish I had that much traction, other times I enjoy the territory banging the limited in 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
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It's relative to how boost is ramped in. The only way a 400rwkw setup will keep up with a 500rwkw setup is traction.
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There's obviously physical limitation of the factory parts to take into account. 500rwkw on E85 with a stock BF/FG motor isn't out of the question and will last for spirited driving. If the car is going to be used primarily for track/strip events then a built engine would be a no-brainer. As I mentioned earlier, I did 11,000kms in my G6ET with 511rwkw on E85. Given the car needed a transmission rebuild, and the car also no longer suited my requirements with a young family, I reverted it back to stock and sold it. I've got a built FG turbo engine in my SZ Territory and I'll be running it on E85 when the fuel system is setup with the intent of running 22-24psi with a goal of 500-550rwkw. Along with the engine build I'm fitting a 6R80 built transmission from Monsta Torque to match the capabilities of the engine. Power costs money. How far can you afford to go reliably is the question. Up to 400rwkw it's chump change, once you go over that amount of power or want to run E85 you'll need to spend. In. My. Opinion.
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My ticking time bomb lasted 11,000kms on E85 before I reverted it back to stock and sold the car. Apparently tuning is a contributing factor to longevity....apparently 😂👍👍👍
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Cant say I had the same positive experience, bought one of their Ebay specials, had it fitted and it failed immediately. The converter blew up and destroyed the box. Looked like some junker na 6 cylinder torque converter, not a V8 or turbo converter. Took a lot of effort to get a refund, but a refund came nevertheless. End up buying a built trans from Automac Transmissions in Myaree, cryod gearset and shafts, billet servo, valve body mods etc. Good for over 400rwkw.
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If it's a GTX3582R the turbo should be good for around 500-520rwkw on E85. The stock engine should be capable of handling it, my G6ET did with stock head bolts. Probably wouldn't hurt to install studs if you're after more power and choose to use E85.
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Thread bump. Thanks, needed this exact info for the RPM pickup for the exact same boost controller.
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I noticed last night beautiful orange flames coming from the exhaust on trailing throttle in 4th and 5th gear after rapidly lifting off the throttle during WOT. It didn't do this before with the twin 2.25" and twin cat setup. Bonus!!!
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Thanks. As for cost, fortunately I had the engine, FMIC, turbo, and other part left over. Otherwise, expect no change from $40k by the time you factor in the engine, turbo, trans, brakes and suspension, fitting and tuning.
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I found a complete Napa leather 7 seat interior from a SZII Titanium which I installed. Couldnt fit the door cards as the electrics for the windows are different from MkI to MkII. Boost control is via a Turbosmart Eboost Street as the factory PCM didn't have boost control solenoid wiring installed. Neither did it have the boost pressure sensor wiring. PCM and ZF tuning is done with PCMTec. I've been able to enable the shift burble that the turbo's have during gearshift. Big plus to me for figuring out which parameters out of thousands to enable this. Trans tuning has taken quite a bit of effort to enable the stock ZF box to cope with the ~400rwkw the engine is making. Gearbox is going to be replaced soon with a built ZF from Monsta Torque. Rob wants me to go for the 6R80 upgrade but I can't stretch the budget at the moment. If the cryod ZF shaft breaks then I'll do the upgrade. Future plans are to swap the PCM with a Haltech plug and play unit, wire up the boost control solenoid and boost pressure sensor and configure the flex fuel sensor. And somehow fit an external surge tank with twin Pierburg pumps, staged through the PCM. Given my G6ET made 511rwkw on E85 with the stock motor I'm 'hoping' to achieve similar power using the same fuel in this vehicle. Let's see.
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Brembo rears with Shockworks springs/shocks. The original exhaust design was to split from the 4" dump into twin 2.5" cats then step down into twin 2.25" muffler inlet and single 3.5" outlet, 3.5" over the diff, then back from 3.5" single inlet to twin 2.25" outlets. The problem with this setup was 10psi back pressure in the exhaust system pre cat @ 20psi manifold pressure. Subsequently had a new front section and muffler built, single 4" inlet to single 3.5" outlet. Not sure what the back pressure is yet as I haven't had it back on the dyno.
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Brakes upgraded to Brembo 6 piston calipers with 355mm rotors for the front and Brembo 4 piston calipers with 330mm rotors. Suspension upgraded to Shockworks coilovers to the front and Shockworks rear shocks and springs. Front struts were custom made to suit the SZ RWD Territory. Their off the shelf kit suited the AWD, but not the RWD model. After some discussion with Brett a custom kit was made. The AWD yokes were tried along with the AWD sway bar from the SZ but this did not work, the kit did not work for the front. As mentioned, a solution was come up with to allow the front end of the RWD model to remain stock. A new threaded tube and bracket was quickly fabricated to allow fitment.
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Thought it might be time to create a build thread on my Territory. It's a 2013 TS Petrol RWD I bought used with only 60,000k's on it. One owner with full service history and well looked after. Anyways, I had a heap of carry over gear from my 2014 G6ET that I didn't part with and had a built FG engine installed in a 2007 TS Territory RWD. Long story short, the SY required a sh*tload of money spent on the body to make it look reasonable which wasn't worth the spend. I parted everything out of it and had it taken to the tip. So, the engine mod list as follows; 2010 FG NA donor engine Spool pistons and conrods Atomic valve springs FG turbo exhaust valves Upgraded oil pump Engine machining etc FG intake and exhaust manifolds GTX3582R Process West FG Stage 2 FMIC Venom 4" dump and 5" cat Custom built stainless exhaust system. Transmission is a stock NA ZF, somehow managing to hold on for now.......
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Does anyone even use SCT's tuning products in this day and age? PCMTec and HP Tuners are the go, or Haltech Elite plug and play. SCT is over rated and overpriced.
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Hey, are your tuner and Ottway still mates? Haven't heard from him lately. They're still getting along, right?
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How do you incorporate both breathers into one catch can so the system is still sealed I.e. doesn't vent to atmosphere.
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Dunno, my G6ET ran 20psi boost, stock motor with valve springs, made 511rwkw on E85. Did around 20k with it before I reverted it back to stock and sold it. A BA running 20psi through a build 4 speed (I assume) would make 350-380rwkw on U98 with supporting modifications.
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I used a hobbs pressure switch to activate the 2nd Pierburg external pump. IIRC is was set to come on over 11psi. My G6ET made 511rwkw on E85 using this setup.
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The DW440 can be staged to run at 65% at low load and triggered to run 100% full load. Then there's the option of boosting voltage. I'm not sure if an off the shelf surge tank will fit my SZ Territory otherwise I'd retain the intank 460 and go Plazmaman external with twin staged Pierburg pumps. Roger.
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What's your opinion on the new brushless DW440? With a voltage booster it will flow 620LPH @ 20v.
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Anyone tried the Walbro 525LPH pump? How much power is it supporting on E85? TIA.