I'm not looking to get attacked here but... I have studied 2 engineering degrees. One is a Bachelor of Electrical Engineering EEE (Electrical and Electronic Engineering) The other is a Bachelor of Electrical Engineering CSE (Computer Systems Engineering) (Plus the Bachelor of Science in Mathmatics and Computer Science) The name of the degree is very much dependant on the University you attended. In my case the EEE (Electrical and Electronic Engineering) degree had different areas of specialty including, electronics, high power systems, power distribution... and the CSE (Computer Systems Engineering) had specialities like, Digital Electronics, VLSI design, computer software..... I know sfa about how to make a car go faster (except by pushing on the acellerator), but I am learning by reading the contents of this formum (and AutoSpeed.com - a great source of information). I guess my point is that what degrees people have (and what they may be called) is irrelevent in debating these points. Have you ever heard a professional debate that went like this: "My side of this debate is correct beacuse I say so and I am smarter then you...." they certanly would not win.