Gee thanks for all that info man. Yeah very true in regards to the owner's who look after them regarless of mods.. guess ill have a bit more of an open mind now when im looking.. They all look pretty nice, the leather is an awesome touch.. And yeah it always seems like I come accross the perfect example but then down the bottom of the page 'ex chaser' lol.. not keen on them either.. the fact that it has had its arse kicked for the first half of its life is a deffinite no no for me, and I bet they dont even run them in properly.. that's what im hoping to do haha.. just someone who is desperate as, knock 2000 of the asking price and snag a bargain haha.. thanks for the heads up about the gearbox., yeah im deffinatley sold on the BF and I think that ill end up getting a MK II when the right one pops up.. Thanks for the offer man, not quite ready yet though, just have to wait for my tax return to come through haha.. also im looking for something in white, black, ego, dark grey etc..