Thanks for the reply .What exactly is the difference between the shoot out modes 4,6,8,etc .,,, ktford,,,,,,279.1rwkw & 750Nm ...NICE the only difference in the modes is the ramp rates, shoot4 is 101 shoot6 is 130 odd shoot8 is 151 shoot3r is 151 shoor81 is 200 odd personally I think the ramp rates are too low. Dale