Thanks for all the replies, as for looking at BA's its mainly to do with price "Bang for my buck." BF's are that much more expensive... but are they worth it? I was originaly lookin at the holdens vy/vz but soon came to realise that for the same money I could get a XR6 turbo ute which to me makes sence go for the XR6T...? I can say that I wont be seriously modifying the ute to begin with as ive never had a turbo car let alone a turbo ute so it should do me fine... Well for a while Again thanks for the replies it has helped