I've been off crook so haven't visited the forum in a while. Sorry Clutz but I would never put those wheels on my car. I was after more of a subtle look, something that isn't stock, but doesn't give the look at me, look at me impression that 90% of cars have here in Canberra with chrome dinner plates. And as CBXRT said, those wheels really do scream boy racer to me. But just as you said, would be a boring world if we were all the same mate so cheers for the opinion. I agree with you that Lensos normally look pretty average in person compared to the catalogue, but in this case I think it is exactly the opposite, look a hell of a lot better in person than that ridiculous catalogue picture, the colour wasn't even the same! *FAIL* I will take some better photos once it is lowered.