Well after ignoring (well more chosing to disregard rather than ignore) sound and sensible advice, I outlayed $5,500 for 3 Chinese quads. Just could'nt justify spending 5 times that on the "proper" jobbies. In short I now have a new hobby, namely MOTOR BIKE MECHANIC In four weeks of use I have had to replace 2 broken chains, 1 throttle cable, a large section of plastic faring, fix a leaking petrol tank, recharge flat batterys, remove several broken cosmetic appendages and retighten / replace 175 nuts and bolts. So in summary, as warned the Bikes are and should be stayed well clear of, unless you are happy to spend your days searching replacement parts and nights putting them back together. On a positive note after spending a total of 4 fault free hours exploring the surrounding bushland with my two sons and seeing their smiling faces after conquering a few"Gigantic and Awesome" Hillclimbs. (their assessment) I could almost say it's been worth the grief and financial outlay.........almost. I'll let you know how things are going in a few months .............Oh and Daddy's got the bug and is seriously considering getting a 450 Raptor