Been back and forth with the old man (he's back home and I'm in Canberra) and he said he measured his hub to guard with just a full tank of fuel and its measuring up at 340mm! He spoke to the guys at King and they said that KFRL-68HD will put him at 370mm hub to guard. Is it possible that the factory springs have sagged 30mm? Its only got 55,000kms The car's always had camber problems but was something we always put down to carting heaps of people and luggage and every wheel alignment we get things changed but is it possible that the springs aren't as high a spring rate as they're meant too be. It was like build number 50 in BF's and when it was picked up it didn't even have the front bar on because it wasn't ready yet, is it possible they rushed to put the car together and the wrong springs went in or they weren't made properly? Would make sense as to why car sags so much with people in it and has such bad camber problems. We're thinking about replacing the springs with sslHD's in order to keep the current hub to guard height. Ever seen anything like this pat?