only on 18s, but my 02c - agree with you mostly Spoony Nitto Invo (260 treadwear) - just new 1000km - love them - Great wet and dry grip both launching and cornering. - Really quiet - Price - $1200 from Hyper Drive (NZD) Achilles ATR Sport 2 (400 treadwear) - Good dry grip and the wet is not bad, - Great bang for buck tyre. - Noise bad when half worn - so bad its annoying - Mileage is up around 30,000 - wore out shoulder and tyre founation showed through. approx 4mm remaining. - $1000 Performance tyres (auckland) - wet grip all gone when 4mm left - they got so bad they were dangerous on standard xr6t. so maybe 40000 but I was too scared to try...