HSE2

March 08.

you mention 2 new models..are these the force6 & force8? what spec of vehicle are these? cheers.. ← Yes they are the Force 6 and Force 8. Your dealership will have information on these cars and I assume they only have the stuff that isn't embargoed. Although the cars are referred to as having Boss 290 and F6 270 engine options I guess power levels could be altered for surprise factor on release, but for these new products if you think Senator competitor then you wont be disappointed with what they come up with. If you want a F6 with more luxury 45 to 50 years old then the Force six is probably for you.

No the current dark wheels will remain the option but cheaper then they are now to reflect the standard fitment of 19 inch wheels.

There are two new models. All cars get 19 inch rims as standard. The optional ones will still be available but will cost less then they do now. All cars get new rims Looks like engines stay the same but you won’t have to wait till December. They are aiming for a release on the 26 of Oct and will be build stock from late Sept (job1)

I have to say I am not real impressed with the quality of my BF either. My issue is with the quality of the panels. I have small dents that while admittedly only show up when the car is in the correct or unfavorable light. When this happens it isn't a good look. I am undecided as to what action I will be taking. Oh and mine is a BF GT-P. There is a chance that the fix might cause greater problems as matching rapid isn't the easiest thing to do thanks largely to the piss poor Ford paint quality.

The edit is a problem down here. A guy in Launceston tried to get it up and running but got stuffed around too much by cappa, or so the story goes. As far as other owners go try www.tastickfordclub.asn.au

Not only has DSC not been mentioned but there has also been no mention of the ABS Bosch software upgrade as with BF in general. As many will know DSC is just an extension of the ABS system. As far as I know they had ABS working with brembo brake cars prior to the upgrade to 8.0 (or similar) what version are FPV using?

I think you will find that the auto box is lighter but yes the cars have gained a little. There is a press release around the net that states there was to be a weight reduction with new springs and shocks but that too has been pulled due to cost considerations. The new exhaust on the GT would be accounting for some of the weight increase and supposedly the BF does have extra sound insulation. This mob continues to consider themselves an engineering company. Their worth to the blue oval is to be inspirational. That’s a bit hard to do when not only do they not provide lead in technology but they can’t use what is afforded by Ford. HSV are in the same boat as I am 99% sure only V6s have DCS. This was a chance to back those engineering claims up. The other side of this is that Euro 3 has required a specialised approach to an exclusive engine. That would have been both significant in time and cost.

If you have a close look at the BF Brembo package that too has been slightly altered in that braided lines are no longer used. A common air box in the range, deletion of coded stitching while it is still available on Xrs and so on. They are little things that support exactly what you have said.

I agree Any time any manufacturer can't or won't make available features that appear on lower model cars they don’t look too clever. In this case cars within the Ford Empire are running Brembos and DSC together. What it means in the real world? Probably nothing but it doesn't look to sharp to be going through the product specification and seeing items that are available on lower cars being omitted especially in this PC world where safety is everything. In some ways this BF FPV range is looking very thin. Do we actually know for a fact that the sound deadening improvement follow on in to the FPV range or are they continuing to use BA shells? : sarcastic:

who said the fantasy paint is cancelled? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> XR colour only. it was meant to be on FPV but not now