I seriously just had tears streaming down my face at that burn on Cameron.... I have spent the last ten mins going from thinking I was doing damage to feeling relived. Great thread!!! Guys- take a look at doing the ss inductions intake and filter mod. Gobble as loud as hell and all the suckky suckky whooooosh you could want!!! (onomatapia in this tread has been really cool! ;-) Off to take a look at deleting the mid muff for even more cool noises... Thanks again for the info and the giggles....