I have an Ex HWP BF and got it with 60,000 ks now has 105000 and been modded to 335RWKW and no dramas with it mechanically at all. They service them well etc and I service mine every 5000ks since ive owned it. Use the fact it an ex HWP car to bargain them down more but dont let it put you off altogether. Plus white ones look best.