I will shed some light on the subject, Chris approched me a few years ago about his venture in desigining a converter to produce more tourque and economy and I said good luck. Anyway he did a run on the dyno as a base run with a Toyota Lexcen aka VN V6 Commodore, as time passed he came back for more runs and finally got one to work with great results much to my suprise (takes a lot to convince me) so he said he wanted to do a Ford one, once again I said good luck. So after three years of a lot of trialing and a lot of crap from me aswell I might add, I think he has finaly got something that is worthy of a result (it still needs more testing for reliablity etc). So in saying all that I think we need to give him a go and wait and see how it goes because I can tell you he has copped enough sh*t from me over time about the R & D not going so well and he has spent thousands of $ on all the R & D so far, not to mention countless labour hours. Regards Bruce