No, why would we? :lol: On the topic of converts to Ford - I think many SS drivers have done so and it's because of the XR6T and not the XR8 which says something eh? The turbo is just a better balanced package all round - better rolling start accelleration from almost any speed, and certainly more predicatable and confidence-inspiring handling. Also better gear matching to the engine's performance which is not the case with the SS. Turbo6man You have to give all makes and models a fair go now, the rallyart magna has a lot going 4 it I would have bought if it was'nt for the badge I put 90km on one for test drive and gave it everything, it just hung on. and at the time thay offered it $10 000 less than the asking price for a T