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  1. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's my car. Nothing boring about it!
  2. It is the publicising of continual lies and crap by garbage rags like New of the world, TMZ, No Idea that propogate these kinds of events. I work with these people and its unbeleivable to see what the lies and crap the trash media propogate does to them. Some like Charlie Sheen can be their own worst enemies, and it easy for people to say its the price of fame or being a celeb to put up with it. But think about not being able to go anywhere withoiut some scum Papparazzi clicking the camera, having your phone bugged, being stalked, not being able to eat a meal in a public place in peace, and then having to read what is always 90% lies about yourself in the trash media. A classic bit of advice I heard Robert Downey Jnr telling an up and coming Aus actor last year was "Dude hang on to any anonominity that you have and don't read the garbage rags or you'll burn up inside then they will throw gas on you to make the story bigger, not that there was a story in the first place". Mel Gibson walks into Taverna Tony's at Malibu for dinner a couple of weeks ago with an electronic cigarette in his hand and a papparazzi juMps out in front with a camera flashing, he reels back in fright, next day all over the media he is accused of being drunk and violent and yet he hasn't touched a drop since the famous "J" people incident and his DD arrest. At the end of the day all them are only ordinary people with extraordinary lives and a lot crash and burn. With Amy Winehouse its a damn shame and may she RIP peace but it was only a matter of time.
  3. Bronson, that's a wild movie. I watched it with him the other night on DVD. He said that the next Mad Max film is going to be more like a continuation of Thunderdome. He's a bit ordinary with cars and his only opinion of the XB Interceptor in the original Mad Max was that it sounded good, he didn't even know it was an XB Coupe . After he pranged the Maserati he bought 2 Smart Cars, 1 is next to the Mustang in my post about it, and he has a Lexus as well. He's more into planes as his toys. He took off to Panama in his G5 yesterday to do do some organising with his childrens charity. Guess cars don't mean too much when you can do almost Mach 1 in your own Lear Jet . I'm guarding his Malibu canyon house until I head home and back to reality on Sat night. Kinda weird sitting in a 15 bedroom house behind a razor wire fence.
  4. I spoke to him about that last week and he was very "Maybe" about whether it will even happen, and if it does he's not starring in it. He did like the Ford concept car interceptor when I showed him the photos though
  5. Been there, done that twice in under 30,000 ks. You get what you pay for and the Ebay ones I got were complete crap. Go for the Ford ones, at least if they crap themselves too early they will replace them. The peace and quiet is awesome when you do them but you won't have it for long with the E Bay jobbies.
  6. What drugs are they on? That price is bloody outrageous and also how they pay for the facade of their flashy service centres . It's really hard to find a good Ford mechanic and you pay through the nose whether you do or you don't. Just 100% proof that looks can be deceiving.
  7. In the US at the moment and just watched the final edit of Mels new movie due for release in November. Set in a Mexican Jail it's back to the non stop action of his past movies and begins with an awesome scene of a Crown Vic rolling at high speed . It will be a great watch for any MG or action movie fans :popcorn: .
  8. From Info wars site. CERN Scientists Gagged On ‘Politically Incorrect’ Global Warming Data Physicists ordered not to draw conclusions from study which seeks to confirm that the sun drives climate change Paul Joseph Watson Infowars.com Wednesday, July 20, 2011 In a shocking illustration of how the man-made climate change establishment has seized control of the scientific process, physicists at the CERN lab in Geneva were gagged from drawing conclusions about data that seeks to replicate studies which prove the sun is the main driver of climate change, after their boss told them that such heresy was politically incorrect. “The chief of the world’s leading physics lab at CERN in Geneva has prohibited scientists from drawing conclusions from a major experiment. The CLOUD (“Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets”) experiment examines the role that energetic particles from deep space play in cloud formation. CLOUD uses CERN’s proton synchrotron to examine nucleation,” reports the Register. The experiment is likely to confirm data from earlier studies which found cosmic rays are pivotal in the formation of clouds and that, “Tiny changes in the earth’s cloud cover could account for variations in temperature of several degrees,” an impact massively more significant than the comparatively minor level of warming caused by man-made CO2 emissions. Suggesting that the data in the yet to be published study has validated this hypothesis, physicists involved in the project were gagged from making any interpretations of the data by their boss, not because of problems with accuracy, but because such a conclusion was not politically correct as it did not fit with the “consensus” that man is the main culprit behind climate change. In an interview with Welt Online, Rolf-Dieter Heuer, Director General of CERN, stated, “I have asked the colleagues to present the results clearly, but not to interpret them.” Heuer’s reason for gagging his own scientists is that their conclusions would enter, “Immediately into the highly political arena of the climate change debate.” In other words, Heuer doesn’t want the data to circulate freely in the public domain because it presumably contradicts the notion that man is the main driver of climate change. It goes without saying that Heuer’s approach represents the antithesis of what science is supposed to be all about, impartial observation and following where the data leads, not following an artificial “consensus” manufactured by politicians for the purpose of legitimizing a global carbon tax system. As physicist Nigel Calder writes, “The once illustrious CERN laboratory ceases to be a truly scientific institute when its Director General forbids its physicists and visiting experimenters to draw the obvious scientific conclusions from their results.” Despite the fact that global warming alarmists have claimed there is no link between the huge raging fireball in space that is over 100 times bigger than the earth, drives the seasons and causes ice ages, and climate change, the data produced by Henrik Svensmark’s studies shows a clear historical correlation between cosmic ray penetration and temperature. Despite the sun’s obvious and significant impact on climate change, the IPCC refuses to include cosmic ray penetration as a factor in temperature change. “CERN has joined a long line of lesser institutions obliged to remain politically correct about the man-made global warming hypothesis,” writes Calder. “It’s OK to enter ‘the highly political arena of the climate change debate’ provided your results endorse man-made warming, but not if they support Svensmark’s heresy that the Sun alters the climate by influencing the cosmic ray influx and cloud formation.” As we reported in September last year, increasing public skepticism over claims that man significantly drives climate change has prompted alarmists to re-brand global warming as overpopulation. A leaked UN blueprint for establishing global governance emphasized the need to adopt this new public relations ploy to combat the increasingly discredited foundation of the anthropogenic climate change myth in the aftermath of the 2009 Climategate scandal. Efforts to cement a carbon tax in Australia are a litmus test for its planned global implementation, so the fact that a sizeable majority of the Australian electorate has vehemently rejected the proposals is a clear indication that the global warming hoax has largely failed. “Political experts believe the battle to sell the carbon tax to the Australian public has been lost and the Prime Minister can do nothing to change voters’ minds on the issue,” reports the Brisbane Times. That’s why the establishment is keen to use the threat of overpopulation, which amounts to little more than unscientific quackery, in addition to isolated weather events such as this year’s drought, as a means of forcing through a carbon tax via the backdoor.
  9. Personally I think the whole thing is a crock, big polluters should be fined if they pollute which they are, they have been cleaning up their act in the western world. When you rationalise whats going on and whats happening to Aus whether its Labour, the Libs or the looney greens it is obvious they are out to economically destroy Australia, maybe its a sinister conspiracy, or maybe it is sheer stupidity; whatever it is is is not good. Hopefully the economic collapse of the US and the EU will make them pull their heads in. The great shame is that so many people havce fallen for the fallacy of man made global warming. Does that make the PR companies really good at what they do, or does it make the avaerage Australian a dickhead? No rational thinking person whether they are a scientist or not would contemplate spending countless billions on anything until it nwas an ABSOLUTE established fact, man made global warming is far from that. It's a shame we can't hang these lying fcukers for treason.
  10. I can't beleive how they are getting away with this con. I found this on another forum. London's Battersea power station featured in "say yes" carbon tax ads http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/a_lesson_in_sacrifice_for_the_planet_from_the_woman_in_the_luxury_audi/ "Reader Walter spots another con in Blanchett's ad, which features an ominous power station that Gillard's tax will allegedly shut down: Good Lord - isn't that London's Battersea power station in the background? Surely no one could be that stupid. " "Reader Popular Front confirms - the power station that Gillard's tax will shut is actually in Britain and actually closed already: You're right Walter - it IS Battersea Power Station (now just a shell btw) and they ARE that stupid. Maybe they should add a giant inflatable pig over it, or maybe Richard III doing a swan dive off it. Reader the sunshine grocer explains: They have shown the old Battersea power station in England because of the "Australian Cringe" Our coal fired power stations are not old and evil enough. So this ad claims falsely Gillard's tax will clean the skies from soot which the ad falsely shows belching from a British station which the ad falsely claims is pumping out pollution today. Could it get any more deceitful? "
  11. 32 to 36 is horrible. I run 40 all round and notice a big difference. Don't think I would go over that though, especially for around town driving. Jarred back and extra rattles anyone?
  12. 276 in an R8 in Switzerland, where it is still against the law but they are realistic. I got flashed by a camera in a tunnel at that speed going from Constance to Lausanne, the fine I got in the mail was for 75 Euro. It still had more and handled like a go cart, brakes at that speed take a long time to wash it back down to 120 In Australia I never exceed 110kph anymore, just not worth it
  13. No leaf springs underneath, Trailing Arms, Coil Springs, Shocks & a skinny Sway Bar. Heres a poor photo John rental abuse may happen with the V8 in Florida, no speed cameras or radar down there and the cops are not really interested in speed. California is a different story they are desperate for revenue since the place is basically bankrupt, that's why they send out the commando police to pull everyone up, looking for defects to hand out fines. I did follow a public bus down the I10 freeway to Santa Monica this morning at 75 MPH though.
  14. Not sure of the displacement, but it is nowhere near the 4.0 litre NA I6 falcon engine in performance or smoothness. It reminds me exactly of a V6 dunnydore engine in performance and sound. The build quality leaves a lot to be desired and it has nothing on the new V8 Mustangs. I'm picking one of them up in Tampa next Tues so the comparo will be interesting. Heres a couple of snaps.
  15. Hey Tim, no problem. The info from the scientists whom the IPCC would not listen to or accept their petition came with permission from the EPA website in the USA. The rest was from a chapter of my own book "Go Deeper" I have been researching this for 10 years, just trying to seperate the truth from the over emotional bogus claims too often made by those who have joined the new religion or who are on the gravy train. Flannery and Garnaut immediately come to mind
  16. Mate that would mean one meal a week and living under a plastic sheet in a park somewhere
  17. One positive thing all of the so called debating has done is to make people a lot more environmentally aware in the western world, and made corporations in the western world a lot more accountable. I think if the powers that be were really serious they would have started with limiting the mass pollution happening in the 3rd world. My only issue with paying more tax is the way it has been forced upon the population.
  18. You are correct many probably won't but people who are genuinely interested will. If you believe the rise in the cost of living will only be $10 a week I think you are kidding yourself. The one thing, apart from making a mess of everything, that Jooliars Govt is exceptional at is telling LIES.
  19. Some people must be really p!ssed.
  20. Oh my my Dule aren't we getting upset, what are you a psychic, how do you know nobody read articles? Next you will be saying the Martians will save us. Why don't you just buy a Prius and pay your carbon tax. It has nothing to do with money, it has to do with there being no evidence that man made global warming is real. If Queen Juliar wasn't held to ransom by Bob lunatic Brown and came straight out and said they had done the usual labour thing and stuffed up the coffers again so we need another 5% GST, I could live with that. But no they have to pursue this pack of lies and suck dim witted people into believing it. Just because you beleive in something doesn't make it true, you think we should all spend money with these incompetent fools, but WHAT IF MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING ISN'T TRUE? The Governments could collectively print up 1000 trillion dollars and throw it at the fallacy and by their own admission it wouldn't make one bit of difference, the Planet will keep cooling, and they all admit it is in a cooling cycle now. Below is another good reason, this will happen in all states these idiots couldn't even get an insulation scheme right, what hope have they got with this, no job and outrageous power bills anyone?. The federal government's carbon tax will encourage Sydneysiders to drive their cars rather than catch public transport, NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell says. Prime Minister Julia Gillard has promised motorists will not pay more for petrol under the tax, but large commercial vehicles, including buses, will not be exempt. "In a city in which we have congested roads ... the federal government's carbon tax scheme puts in place an incentive to drive a car, not catch a bus," Mr O'Farrell told Sky News today. Schools, hospitals and other services would also suffer, he said, as the NSW government was set to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in dividends from the state's mainly government-owned black coal power generators, which have been denied compensation for the tax they will pay. "It could take up to half of the dividends provided by the state energy companies to state government," he said. "That means we are down a couple of hundred million dollars that would otherwise be going into schools, into hospitals, into policing and the other services that we provide."
  21. Got a 2011 Mustand from Avis in LA the other day with only 1200 miles on it. I usually get a V8 Mustang, Challenger, or Vette but they had none. Although the 6 cyl is a great looking car with lots of groovy gadgets and it will even verbally self diagnose and talk to you, it looks great inside and out, but sounds like a V6 Late model camira and has about the same torque. It tells me I am averaging 20.7 MPG at the moment and I haven't really flogged it because of the endless LA traffic jam and its too boring waiting for it to get up any real speed. The FG is better finished, faster, quieter, and handles a hell of a lot better. I hope Ford Aus don't decide to make this V6 standard fare in the Falcon.
  22. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, because I have a brain, we can't do anything about it because climate change is a naturally occouring event, and I don't want to hand over my hard earned money to a bunch of lying hypocrites. Tell any lie for long enough and it becomes an assumed truth. "The Broad Mass Of a Nation Will Fall More Easily To A Great Lie Than A Small Lie" Adolf Hitler.
  23. China is also spending billions on more coal fired power stations god bless them. There are no sceptics, just those with common sense and those who have been sucked in by all this nonsense. Now have a long and interesting read. There are 1000s of well credentialed REAL scientists who know its a crock, their names are listed half way through what is pasted below. Some facts to consider before you believe we are all going to melt away 1. Carbon (CO2) is blamed as the great culprit of this supposed global warming is found in the ocean in the hundreds of billions of tons, and millions of tons are released daily into the atmosphere through natural evaporative processes. 2. Last time the Mt St Helens Volcano blew its top in the US, it released into the atmosphere in one day the same amount of carbon and other pollutants as what it would take humans 400 years to produce at present social and industrial levels. Since that time, there have been many more active Volcano’s continuing to contribute massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. 3. If you put an ice cube into a glass and then fill it to the very top with water, when the ice melts, do you get water spilling out over the sides? No, because water expands when it becomes ice and contracts when it melts. And as for the nonsense of the world flooding and sea levels rising, what about the more likely reality of the Teutonic plates shifting and causing a rise or fall in the landmasses? 4. The hole in the Ozone layer appears every year above the north and south poles is a naturally occurring event that has nothing to do with CFCs. If the so-called Ozone holes are caused by CFCs then why don’t holes appear above the major industrial cities? The other ignored truths are that it takes 40 years for a CFC particle to get from the ground to the Ozone layer, and secondly ozone is created by a synthesis between sunlight and the ocean. So when the long winters of no daylight happen in the poles then Ozone is not being produced and the holes expand. 5. Who stands to make the most money from research grants to prove the existence of global warming? By December 2007 the only evidence that has been produced to support the Global Warming theory has come from obscure boffins engaged in the manipulation of previous statistics. These so called experts and their computer models can’t even predict next week’s weather correctly, or when an earthquake will happen, or a Tsunami. Unfortunately or fortunately, whichever way you look at Mr Gore’s movie “An Inconvenient Truth” doesn’t stand up very well to any real scientific investigation. His message is great, but it’s not based on any reliable science that I’m aware of. And then of course we just had the head of the IPCC resign in February 2010. He said to pursue private consultancy work, but I wouldn’t want to be the head of the panel as the truth is floating to surface as it always does. It took until 2010 for the truth to become evident that man made global warming was a crock, but half the planet still believes it. At least we have been temporarily saved from the likes of Cap and Trade and equally ridiculous measures by many UN countries that in fact amount to a great big tax on everything, for the moment. If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka CRU) and released 61 megabytes of confidential files onto the internet. When you read some of those files, including 1079 emails and 72 documents, you realise just why the boffins at CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”. These alleged emails – supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory – suggest: Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more. One of the alleged emails has a gentle gloat over the death in 2004 of John L Daly (one of the first climate change sceptics, founder of the Still Waiting For Greenhouse site), commenting: “In an odd way this is cheering news.” But perhaps the most damaging revelations – the scientific equivalent of the Telegraph’s MPs’ expenses scandal – are those concerning the way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause. Here are a few tasters. Manipulation of evidence: “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline”. Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate”. Suppression of evidence: “Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis. Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address. We will be getting Caspar to do likewise”. Fantasies of violence against prominent Climate Skeptic scientists: “Next time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I’ll be tempted to beat the crap out of him. Very tempted”. Attempts to disguise the inconvenient truth of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP): “Phil and I have recently submitted a paper using about a dozen NH records that fit this category, and many of which are available nearly 2K back–I think that trying to adopt a timeframe of 2K, rather than the usual 1K, addresses a good earlier point that Peck made w/ regard to the memo, that it would be nice to try to “contain” the putative “MWP”, even if we don’t yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far back.” And, perhaps most reprehensibly, a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank, whose views do not have a scrap of authority. “This was the danger of always criticizing the skeptics for not publishing in the “peer-reviewed literature”. Obviously, they found a solution to that–take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I think we have to stop considering “Climate Research” as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal. We would also need to consider what we tell or request of our more reasonable colleagues who currently sit on the editorial board…What do others think?” “I will be emailing the journal to tell them I’m having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor. It results from this journal having a number of editors. The responsible one for this is a well-known skeptic in NZ. He has let a few papers through by Michaels and Gray in the past. I’ve had words with Hans von Storch about this, but got nowhere. Another thing to discuss in Nice!” “Hadley CRU has form in this regard. In September – I wrote the story up here as “How the global warming industry is based on a massive lie” - CRU’s researchers were exposed as having “cherry-picked” data in order to support their untrue claim that global temperatures had risen higher at the end of the 20th century than at any time in the last millennium. CRU was also the organization which – in contravention of all acceptable behavior in the international scientific community – spent years withholding data from researchers it deemed unhelpful to its cause. This matters because CRU, established in 1990 by the Met Office, is a government-funded body which is supposed to be a model of rectitude. Its HadCrut record is one of the four official sources of global temperature data used by the IPCC.” In the run up to Copenhagen, we will see more and more hysterical (and grotesquely exaggerated) stories such as this in the Mainstream Media. And we will see ever more virulent campaigns conducted by eco fascist activists, such as this risible new advertising campaign by Plane Stupid showing CGI polar bears falling from the sky and exploding because kind of, like, man, that’s sort of what happens whenever you take another trip on an airplane. The world is currently cooling; electorates are increasingly reluctant to support eco-policies leading to more oppressive regulation, higher taxes and higher utility bills; the tide is turning against Al Gore’s Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. The so-called “skeptical” view, which some of us have been expressing for quite some time. In WELCOME TO OBAMALAND: I’VE SEEN YOUR FUTURE AND IT DOESN’T WORK is now, thank heaven, the majority view. Unfortunately, we’ve got a long, long way to go before the public mood (and scientific truth) is reflected by our policy makers. There are too many vested interests in AGW, with far too much to lose either in terms of reputation or money, for this to end without a bitter fight. But to judge by the way – despite the best efforts of the MSM not to report on it – the CRU scandal is spreading like wildfire across the internet, this shabby story represents a blow to the AGW lobby’s credibility from which it is never likely to recover. (Source) James Delingpole: Author of, Welcome To Obamaland: I've Seen Your Future And It Doesn't Work. Many scientists, although remaining mostly unheard in the mainstream media, said that the UN conference on climate change in Bali in 2007 was a complete sham. Approximately 100 prominent scientists signed an open letter to UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki Moon, clearly slamming the current IPCC process as a complete fraud. Open Letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations Dec. 13, 2007 His Excellency Ban Ki-Moon Secretary-General, United Nations New York, N.Y. Dear Mr. Secretary-General, Re: UN climate conference taking the World in entirely the wrong direction. It is not possible to stop climate change, a natural phenomenon that has affected humanity through the ages. Geological, archaeological, oral and written histories all attest to the dramatic challenges posed to past societies from unanticipated changes in temperature, precipitation, winds and other climatic variables. We therefore need to equip nations to become resilient to the full range of these natural phenomena by promoting economic growth and wealth generation. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has issued increasingly alarming conclusions about the climatic influences of human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2), a non-polluting gas that is essential to plant photosynthesis. While we understand the evidence that has led them to view CO2 emissions as harmful, the IPCC's conclusions are quite inadequate as justification for implementing policies that will markedly diminish future prosperity. In particular, it is not established that it is possible to significantly alter global climate through cuts in human greenhouse gas emissions. On top of which, because attempts to cut emissions will slow development, the current UN approach of CO2 reduction is likely to increase human suffering from future climate change rather than to decrease it. The IPCC Summaries for Policy Makers are the most widely read IPCC reports amongst politicians and non-scientists and are the basis for most climate change policy formulation. Yet these summaries are prepared by a relatively small core writing team with the final drafts approved line-by-line by ¬government -representatives. The great ¬majority of IPCC contributors and ¬reviewers, and the tens of thousands of other scientists, who are qualified to comment on these matters, are not involved in the preparation of these documents. The summaries therefore cannot properly be represented as a consensus view among experts. Contrary to the impression left by the IPCC Summary reports: Recent observations of phenomena such as glacial retreats, sea-level rise and the migration of temperature-sensitive species are not evidence for abnormal climate change, for none of these changes has been shown to lie outside the bounds of known natural variability. The average rate of warming of 0.1 to 0. 2 degrees Celsius per decade recorded by satellites during the late 20th century falls within known natural rates of warming and cooling over the last 10,000 years. Leading scientists, including some senior IPCC representatives, acknowledge that today's computer models cannot predict climate. Consistent with this, and despite computer projections of temperature rises, there has been no net global warming since 1998. That the current temperature plateau follows a late 20th-century period of warming is consistent with the continuation today of natural multi-decadal or millennial climate cycling. In stark contrast to the often-repeated assertion that the science of climate change is "settled," significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming. But because IPCC working groups were generally instructed to consider work published only through May 2005, these important findings are not included in their reports; I.e., the IPCC assessment reports are already materially outdated. The UN climate conference in Bali has been planned to take the world along a path of severe CO2 restrictions, ignoring the lessons apparent from the failure of the Kyoto Protocol, the chaotic nature of the European CO2 trading market, and the ineffectiveness of other costly initiatives to curb greenhouse gas emissions. Balanced cost/benefit analyses provide no support for the introduction of global measures to cap and reduce energy consumption for the purpose of restricting CO2 emissions. Furthermore, it is irrational to apply the "precautionary principle" because many scientists recognize that both climatic cooling’s and warming’s are realistic possibilities over the medium-term future. The current UN focus on "fighting climate change," as illustrated in the Nov. 27 UN Development Programme's Human Development Report, is distracting governments from adapting to the threat of inevitable natural climate changes, whatever forms they may take. National and international planning for such changes is needed, with a focus on helping our most vulnerable citizens adapt to conditions that lie ahead. Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity's real and pressing problems. The following are signatories to the Dec. 13th letter to the Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations on the UN Climate conference in Bali: Don Aitkin, PhD, Professor, social scientist, retired vice-chancellor and president, University of Canberra, Australia. William J.R. Alexander, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Bio systems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa; Member, UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000. Bjarne Andresen, PhD, physicist, Professor, The Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark. Geoff L. Austin, PhD, FNZIP, FRSNZ, Professor, Dept. of Physics, University of Auckland, New Zealand. Timothy F. Ball, PhD, environmental consultant, former climatology professor, University of Winnipeg. Ernst-Georg Beck, Dipl. Biol., Biologist, Merian-Schule Freiburg, Germany. Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD, Reader, Dept. of Geography, Hull University, U.K.; Editor, Energy & Environment journal. Chris C. Borel, PhD, remote sensing scientist, U.S. Reid A. Bryson, PhD, DSc, DEngr, UNE P. Global 500 Laureate; Senior Scientist, Center for Climatic Research; Emeritus Professor of Meteorology, of Geography, and of Environmental Studies, University of Wisconsin. Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., wildlife biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic regions, Alberta. R.M. Carter, PhD, Professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia. D. Clark, PhD, Professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa. Richard S. Courtney, PhD, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K. Willem de Lange, PhD, Dept. of Earth and Ocean Sciences, School of Science and Engineering, Waikato University, New Zealand. David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts and Sciences, University of Oklahoma Freeman J. Dyson, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J. Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western Washington University. Lance Endersbee, Emeritus Professor, former dean of Engineering and Pro-Vice Chancellor of Monash University, Australia. Hans Erren, Doctor andus, geophysicist and climate specialist, Sittard, The Netherlands. Robert H. Essenhigh, PhD, E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy Conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University. Christopher Essex, PhD, Professor of Applied Mathematics and Associate Director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario. David Evans, PhD, mathematician, carbon accountant, computer and electrical engineer and head of 'Science Speak,' Australia. William Evans, PhD, editor, American Midland Naturalist; Dept. of Biological Sciences, University of Notre Dame Stewart Franks, PhD, Professor, Hydro climatologist, University of Newcastle, Australia. R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai'I Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology, University of Hawai'I at Manoa. Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas; former director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey. Gerhard Gerlich, Professor for Mathematical and Theoretical Physics, Institut für Mathematische Physik der TU Braunschweig, Germany. Albrecht Glatzle, PhD, sc.agr., Agro-Biologist and Gerente ejecutivo, INTTAS, Paraguay Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adjunct Professor, Royal Institute of Technology, Mechanical Engineering, Stockholm, Sweden. Vincent Gray, PhD, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of 'Climate Change 2001, Wellington, New Zealand. William M. Gray, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University and Head of the Tropical Meteorology Project Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut. Louis Hissink MSc, M.A.I.G., editor, AIG News, and consulting geologist, Perth, Western Australia. Craig D. Idso, PhD, Chairman, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Arizona. Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, AZ, USA. 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(Source: National Post Tuesday December 18th 2007) Senate Report Debunks "Consensus" Report Released on December 20, 2007 U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee (Minority) INTRODUCTION: Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists, the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007. Even some in the establishment media now appear to be taking notice of the growing number of skeptical scientists. In October, the Washington Post Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking." Many scientists from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming fears "bite the dust." In addition, many scientists who are also progressive environmentalists believe climate fear promotion has "co-opted" the green movement. This blockbuster Senate report lists the scientists by name, country of residence, and academic/institutional affiliation. It also features their own words, biographies, and web links to their peer reviewed studies and original source materials as gathered from public statements, various news outlets, and websites in 2007. This new "consensus busters" report is poised to redefine the debate. Many of the scientists featured in this report consistently stated that numerous colleagues shared their views, but they will not speak out publicly for fear of retribution. Atmospheric scientist Dr. Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, author of almost 70 peer-reviewed studies, explains how many of his fellow scientists have been intimidated. "Many of my colleagues with whom I spoke share these views and report on their inability to publish their skepticism in the scientific or public media," Paldor wrote. This new report details how teams of international scientists are dissenting from the UN IPCC's view of climate science. In such nations as Germany, Brazil, the Netherlands, Russia, New Zealand and France, nations and scientists banded together in 2007 to oppose climate alarmism. In addition, over 100 prominent international scientists sent an open letter in December 2007 to the UN stating attempts to control climate were "futile." Paleo-climatologist Dr. Tim Patterson, professor in the department of Earth Sciences at Carleton University in Ottawa, recently converted from a believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic. Patterson noted that the notion of a "consensus" of scientists aligned with the UN IPCC or former Vice President Al Gore is false. "I was at the Geological Society of America meeting in Philadelphia in the fall and I would say that people with my opinion were probably in the majority." This new committee report, a first of its kind, comes after the UN IPCC chairman Rajendra Pachauri implied that there were only “about a dozen" skeptical scientists left in the world. Former Vice President Gore has claimed that scientists skeptical of climate change are akin to "flat Earth society members" and similar in number to those who "believe the moon landing was actually staged in a movie lot in Arizona." The distinguished scientists featured in this new report are experts in diverse fields, including: climatology; geology; biology; glaciology; biogeography; meteorology; oceanography; economics; chemistry; mathematics; environmental sciences; engineering; physics and paleo-climatology. Some of those profiled have won Nobel Prizes for their outstanding contribution to their field of expertise and many shared a portion of the UN IPCC Nobel Peace Prize with Vice President Gore. Additionally, these scientists hail from prestigious institutions worldwide, including: Harvard University; NASA; National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR); Massachusetts Institute of Technology; the UN IPCC; the Danish National Space Center; U.S. Department of Energy; Princeton University; the Environmental Protection Agency; University of Pennsylvania; Hebrew University of Jerusalem; the International Arctic Research Centre; the Pasteur Institute in Paris; the Belgian Weather Institute; Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute; the University of Helsinki; the National Academy of Sciences of the U.S., France, and Russia; the University of Pretoria; University of Notre Dame; Stockholm University; University of Melbourne; Columbia University; the World Federation of Scientists; and the University of London. The voices of many of these hundreds of scientists serve as a direct challenge to the often media-hyped "consensus" that the debate is "settled." A May 2007 Senate report detailed scientists who had recently converted from believers in man-made global warming to skepticism. The report counters the claims made by the promoters of man-made global warming fears that the number of skeptical scientists is dwindling. Examples of "consensus" claims made by promoters of man-made climate fears Former Vice President Al Gore (November 5, 2007): "There are still people who believe that the Earth is flat." Gore also compared global warming skeptics to people who "believe the moon landing was actually staged in a movie lot in Arizona." (June 20, 2006) CNN's Miles O'Brien (July 23, 2007): "The scientific debate is over," O'Brien said. "We're done." O'Brien also declared on CNN on February 9, 2006 that scientific skeptics of man-made catastrophic global warming "are bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry, usually." On July 27, 2006, Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein described a scientist as "one of the few remaining scientists skeptical of the global warming harm caused by industries that burn fossil fuels." Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, Chairman of the IPCC view on the number of skeptical scientists as quoted on Feb. 20, 2003: "About 300 years ago, a Flat Earth Society was founded by those who did not believe the world was round. That society still exists; it probably has about a dozen members." Agence France-Press (AFP Press) article (December 4, 2007): The article noted that a prominent skeptic "finds himself increasingly alone in his claim that climate change poses no imminent threat to the planet." Andrew Dessler in the eco-publication Grist Magazine (November 21, 2007): "While some people claim there are lots of skeptical climate scientists out there, if you actually try to find one, you keep turning up the same two dozen or so (e.g., Singer, Lindzen, Michaels, Christy, etc., etc.). These skeptics are endlessly recycled by the denial machine, so someone not paying close attention might think there are lots of them out there - but that's not the case." The Washington Post asserted on May 23, 2006 that there were only "a handful of skeptics" of man-made climate fears. UN special climate envoy Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland on May 10, 2007 declared the climate debate "over" and added “it's completely immoral, even, to question the UN’s scientific “consensus." ABC News Global Warming Reporter Bill Blakemore reported on August 30, 2006: "After extensive searches, ABC News has found no such [scientific] debate" on global warming. Yet another attempt to imply there was an overwhelming scientific "consensus" in favor of man-made global warming fears came in December 2007 during the UN climate conference in Bali. A letter signed by only 215 scientists urged the UN to mandate deep cuts in carbon dioxide emissions by 2050. But absent from the letter were the signatures of these alleged "thousands" of scientists. UN IPCC chairman Rajendra Pachauri urged the world at the December 2007 UN climate conference in Bali, Indonesia to "Please listen to the voice of science." The science has continued to grow loud and clear in 2007. In addition to the growing number of scientists expressing skepticism, an abundance of recent peer-reviewed studies have cast considerable doubt about man-made global warming fears. A November 3, 2007 peer-reviewed study found that "solar changes significantly alter climate." A December 2007 peer-reviewed study recalculated and halved the global average surface temperature trend between 1980 and 2002. Another new study found the Medieval Warm Period 0.3C warmer than 20th century. A peer-reviewed study by a team of scientists found that "warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence." Another November 2007 peer-reviewed study in the journal Physical Geography found "Long-term climate change is driven by solar insulation changes." These recent studies were in addition to the abundance of peer-reviewed studies earlier in 2007. As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m not big on politics or Politicians, but I spent more than a little time wondering why George W Bush and John Howard wouldn’t sign the USA and Australia into the Kyoto Protocol. Now I understand completely. They were not prepared to tax their citizens hundreds of billions of dollars without solid scientific evidence. Now if those guys with all the resources and the scientists they have at their disposal couldn’t find any evidence, then common sense dictates that nobody is going to. Elderly People Freeze to Death Sofia: Three people died and hundreds of motorists were stranded when heavy snow caused chaos in Bulgaria yesterday. People were warned against travelling as snow up to 1m covered parts of the Balkan country and temperatures dropped to minus 16c. The Danube River was partially iced over. An 82-year-old woman and a 66-year-old man froze to death. A 32-year-old man, who needed dialysis treatment in hospital, died when rescue workers failed to reach his home. Three days of heavy snowfall and high winds have cut electricity supplies to more than 70 villages and towns. Meteorologists said snow was expected to continue in the northeast where all municipalities had declared a state of emergency and army bulldozers were struggling to rescue stranded villages and motorists, and clear roads. Bad weather grounded flights at the Black Sea airport of Varna in the northeast, but Bulgaria’s biggest port of Varna was open. On the 11th of January 2008 it was also on the evening news that Bagdad has experienced snow for the first time in known history. Civil defense workers rescued 61 passengers from a train in the north. A helicopter is expected to deliver food supplies to 70 tourists trapped in a mountain lodge in central Bulgaria, officials said. In the US, a fierce Arctic storm has pounded California, threatening to soak mudslide-prone canyons already charred by fires and paralyze the mountains with deep snow. Power was cut to hundreds of thousands of residents and the California Highway Patrol encouraged drivers to stay off roads. Truckers were told to wait out blizzard like conditions over mountain passes in the Sierra Nevada. Some Ski resorts had closed. The sprawling, swirling storm system spanned the length of the west coast. Winds howled in the mountain areas, gusting up to 137km/h, and parts of highways from Sacramento to San Francisco were closed because debris blocked lanes. Ocean tides were expected to swell to 9 meters, prompting the US Coast Guard to caution boaters to remain in port. (Source; the Sunday Times WA: January 6th 2008) The cold snaps and freezing weather have continued right up until this present time in 2010. Bankers go for Green genocide Reserve Bank board member (Australia) Warwick McKibbin has just announced support for a carbon tax, combined with a carbon-trading scheme. “Make no mistake: the "climate change" swindle run by the British financial oligarchy and supported by our complicit mainstream media, will tax us to death—no pun intended. This tax-and-trade scheme will shut down our farmers and manufacturers and ram up the price of petrol, gas, and electricity—and it’s all based on one big scientific scam.” Whether accidental or semi intentional the London centered financial oligarchy may have no problem with mass genocide, as the following quotes from their assets in the Green movement clearly demonstrate. Reading the comments below made by apparently caring and respectable greenies should cause concern to any individual interested in upholding personal freedom and human rights. I used to believe that these organizations were saving the planet. Now I am seriously beginning to wonder what the real agenda is. One may consider the following quotations as simply emotive off the cuff comments, even if this is so? I’m not inclined to place too much trust in any organization that has leader’s members and organizers who would even think such things let alone say them publicly. If there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary about the existence of manmade global warming, then what exactly is the real agenda? "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Philip reported by Deutsche Presse-Agentur (DPA), August 1988. Prince Philip, first President of WWF-UK from its foundation in 1961 to 1982, and President of WWF-International from 1981 to 1996, is now President Emeritus for WWF. He was a founder of the Australian Conservation Foundation and its President from 1971 to 1976. “One humane way to reduce the population might be to put something in the water, a virus that would be specific to the human reproductive system and would make a substantial proportion of the population infertile. Perhaps a virus that would knock out the genes that produce certain hormones necessary for conception. A triage approach will be necessary so that scarce medical resources go to those who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet. Consequently, many middle-aged-to-elderly people will die uncomfortable deaths. Not every problem is solvable." Dr John Reid speaking with Robyn Williams on ABC radio, 10 December 2006. "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the UN Earth Summit, June 1992. "At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per day. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars.... War ... has hitherto been disappointing in this respect ... but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full.... The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are mostly indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s happiness" - Lord Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society, 1953. "This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." Jacques Cousteau, co-recipient in 1977 (with Sir Peter Scott) of the International Environmental Prize awarded by the United Nations for outstanding contributions in the field of the environment. Quoted from UNESCO Courier, November 1991. "We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." Carl Amery, Founding member of the German Green Party, quoted in Mensch & Energie, April 1983. "I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace, as quoted by Dixy Lee Ray in her book Trashing the Planet (1990). "Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." David Brower, first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute. "I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal "We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity’s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight." David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! “Cannibalism is a radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." Dr Lyall Watson, anthropologist, Commissioner for the International Whaling Commission, as quoted in the Financial Times, 15 July 1995. "To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem." Dr Lamont Cole, Professor of Ecology, Cornell University, as quoted by Elizabeth Whelan in her book Toxic Terror. "The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." Merton Lambert, former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation, quoted from Harpeth Journal, Dec. 18, 1962. "A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner, media mogul, as quoted in Audubon, November-December 1991. The Truth Will Always Out After the media induced hysteria died down and the head of the IPCC resigned in embarrassment at the collapse of the Copenhagen summit amid the now infamous email leaks from the dud scientists at The Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, people are waking up in droves. The game is almost up and the real scientists are finally being heard. Even so much of the so called science is not so scientific at all. At a ground breaking seminar in Chicago USA during three days in May 2010, seventy three distinguished real scientists will present their findings at what could aptly be described as the first scientific man made global warming truth summit. The mainstream media over the past few days has been pushing a letter published in Science magazine signed by 255 scientists claiming “potentially catastrophic climate change,” but many of the signatories have absolutely no atmospheric science background or training, writes Tony Hake for the Miami Examiner. “An investigation into the professional backgrounds of the scientists finds that many do not work in climate science and some work in fields not even remotely related to it. In fact, among the first 20 listed, none work in climate science,” writes Hake. “Pediatric surgeons, an expert in the Maya and the Olmec civilizations, a chemist that studies bacteria, a ‘computer pioneer’ with Microsoft, an electrical engineer, the chairman of a biotechnology firm, and even an expert studying corn are but a few of the 255 ‘experts’ that signed the letter,” Hake explains. Even so, the 255 signatories is less than 1/10th the number of scientists who have signed a letter, known as the Oregon Petition, stating humans are not causing a global warming crisis. The letter from the 255 scientists has already attracted substantial criticism, as it was accompanied in Science magazine by a fake photograph of a polar bear appearing stranded on a small iceberg. It turns out a picture of a polar bear was superimposed on a picture of the small iceberg for dramatic – if not truthful – effect. It is only appropriate, many global warming “skeptics” note, that misleading assertions are accompanied by a misleading photograph. According to a national survey conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, Americans don't consider global warming to be anywhere near a top priority for President Barack Obama and Congress this year, in fact since the public have woken up to the con the priority of global warming has dropped to only 28 on the scale of importance. Since Kevin Rudd’s “Emission Trading Scheme,” ETS, and Barack Obama's preferred approach to global warming “Cap and Trade” or energy tax legislation would destroy the nation's economy and kill jobs, it would seem pretty clear the president ought to steer clear of such policies. After what just happened on health care reform, it's unlikely the American people will tolerate being so completely ignored again.
  24. Toby it seems that you have been watching too much of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Half Truth" and listening to WWF tin rattlers, China will dump as much evil C02 into the atmosphere in 2 weeks as what Aus does in 2 years and they will use our coal to do it. All this tax we will pay is never going to change that fact one bit, plus China is smart enough to realise that man made global warming is a CROCK anyway. Plus if you want to drive a Prius or some other "non real car" go for your life. And as far as your assumption about 2050 is concerned most of us oldies have kids that we love who will be here in 2050.
  25. Welcome to the 3rd world Tim, you better trade you T in for one of those disgusting Hybrid things and switch all your lights and TV and refrigerator off then. You can charge as much tax and introduce an ETS across the whole world tomorrow and even if the farce of man made global warming was true it wouldn't make 1 poofteenth of a difference. Just like wind farms solar power is under developed crap, the other option is nuclear, fukushima number 2 anybody. Coal, burning coal has been going on for hundreds of years and its going to keep going on well according to the Chinese who are building coal fired power stations it is. If you want to hand over your money and living standards to a pack of idealistic nonsense then good for you but not this spring chicken. Imagine 1 km of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon pollution in it created by human activity. Let's go for a walk along it. The first 770m are Nitrogen. The next 210m are Oxygen. 20 meters to go. The next 10m are water vapor. 10 meters left. 9m are argon. Just 1 more meter. A few gases make up the first bit of that last meter. The last 38cms of the km - that's carbon dioxide. 97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. Out of our journey of 1km, there are just 12mm left. Just over a 1cm. That's the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into the atmosphere. And of those 12mm Australia puts in .18 of a mm. Less than the thickness of a hair. Out of a kilometer! As a hair is to a kilometer - so is Australia's contribution to what the PM calls Carbon Pollution. Imagine Brisbane's new Gateway Bridge, ready to be opened by the PM. It's been polished, painted and scrubbed till its 1km length is surgically clean. Except the PM says we have a huge problem, the bridge is polluted - there's a human hair on the road. We'd laugh ourselves silly. I can't believe that a carbon tax on everything is the only way to blow that pesky hair away.
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