from the back side of the guage, using a flat blade screwdriver lifted the lip all the way around so its no longer "crimped".. The original ring will then come off (with a bit of effort depending on how good you lifted the lip..) I then got the glass, and glued them to the fpv rings.. Because of the position of the guage in the pods, the FPV rings clip nicely on in place. I'm running the illumination to the dim line from behind the "spotlight" switch.. that way it will dim with the dash dim. Ohh, the Pillar using fpv pod will look great !! Danny. ← Mate I never would have tried this without seeing it been done. Now just need them installed.