Yeh just wondered mate as I've found traction control to be pretty useful in the wet. My car (the EF) with no traction control slides around in the wet till the cows come home. Even on 1/8 throttle travel in a straight line. Dad's car however no matter how hard you try wont get out of control in the wet (in a straight line of course) wont, as traction control gives you a little bit of a tail wag and then steps in instantly (also does this in the dry). It's a totally different story without it on. The territory is the most sure footed being awd, having DSC and TC, having such a downforce on the road from its sheer weight and the fact that it is probably too underpowered to get loose. I remember a few other people (a while back) posting about their bingles in (modified and stock) xr6t's saying when the car hit its boost over a rough patch of road they just lost control of it. I just didnt understand how these incidents could happen in a straight line with a car that has traction control to step in and keep the situation under control (unless it was switched off for some reason such as a wheelspinning launch?). Good on you too for having the guts to admit driver error and hope your car gets sorted soon. I love the colour rapid and was trying to get dad to buy a GT as his new car in that colour with black stripe but heard its been discontinued when we approached the dealer :(.