BA_Turbs

I had an ex that was going around to another blokes house for coffee all the time, they were good friends and would catch up all the time. It didn't feel right, plus a few other issues so I told her we were parting ways. Had it confirmed about 2 months later that she was f*cking this blokes guts out. One of her friends that she pissed off told me. Oh well, just cut out the dead wood, got a great girlfriend now who I've moved in with. The BIGGEST difference in the relationship is that trust exists. Its so much more relaxing. And I'm not a jealous guy, some of my mates are full on "over-protective" of their gf's and hound them with phone calls if they go out for a night etc. I don't, never have. Without sounding like a misguided romantic, trust is what its based on. Without it, you just worry your guts out 24-7. Best of Luck with your situation.

Urban Myth. Same one circulated around VicPol. I also know of a situation where a brick layer was hauling a large barrel of bricks up to a top floor of.......... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope not urban myth Call the work cover office in Grafton NSW and they can confirm this...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, it is an urban myth. It was a widely spread rumour in our office and refuted ny the OH&S rep from the Police Association. If you think this is some kind of poetic justice that a police member was given a ticket, I'm not sorry to be the one that bursts your bubble. Its not a lawful process to issue it directly to the member. Next time at back at work I will even find the e-mail that was also sent dispeling it and explaining the correct procedure that Work Cover must follow to issue a notice. And I know the VicPol has a massive work cover bill, largest in the state. Its police injuring themselves and prtoecting and assisting people like yourself that is so expensive. There no need to turn it into a pi$$ing contest. Who cares who has seen however many dead bodies? I've seen one that was worse than the other 20 combined. Anyway, WTF has this got to do with a police car?

if you are charged with xPCA you are eXceeding the Prescribed Concentration of Alcohol. I think Plonky is saying that police in NSW are the only people that lose their jobif charged with this (when not working). Not the case in Victoria, but there's members of parliment, judges and all sorts of people getting done down here, no one's losing jobs either. If Shannon Noll has mainained all of his credibilty after his incident, then why should anyone else be judged adversley? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes that's correct. Same goes if a spouse/girlfiend or (God forbid) boyfriend takes out an AVO. It becomes a formal complaint, you are removed from operational duty, firearm is removed from you and you are subject to a Sec.181D Notice (Commissioners Confidence) You can be sacked for this as well (how crap is that....vicious girlfriend or cunning estranged wife knows how to get you in trouble so you are blackmailed into giving things/doing things etc just so you don;t lose you job) If the weirdo's and social experimenters get their way in Victoria, they will have a job destroying Royal Commission and creation of stupid oversight bodies which castrates the way the Police can keep the unlawful community under control. NSW now has the Police Force they deserve because they kept voting for a Government intent upon social engineering, social justice and abrogation of personal responsibility. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You wouldn't mean Nana would you? (read as Ms NIXON, our Chief. Thanks for that NSW Police, we owe you one!)

Yes you can BA_Turbs - the Vegas Glo Range, available through Autobarn. Get get red only, or pay an extra $70 odd and have 7 colours to choose from at all times. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm talking about not having the TMU gents at work defect my car, not the actual availiblity of them, but thanks for the heads up!

if you are charged with xPCA you are eXceeding the Prescribed Concentration of Alcohol. I think Plonky is saying that police in NSW are the only people that lose their jobif charged with this (when not working). Not the case in Victoria, but there's members of parliment, judges and all sorts of people getting done down here, no one's losing jobs either. If Shannon Noll has mainained all of his credibilty after his incident, then why should anyone else be judged adversley?

I'd like to get my car lowered and have red neons all around. Couple of problems with that though, can't hav red facing front, and the government is working on legslation to stamp out all of these additional lights, so I might be pi$$ing money away. If you want 'em go for it. Who cares. Call them rice if you want, the fact I didn't go out and buy a Silvia has nothing to do with whether it had neons or not. You should make the mods you want to make.

I'm sure you don't care, but device would acually make your car unroadworthy (In Vic at least).

Flaming Hell, that language is not on young man!

Urban Myth. Same one circulated around VicPol. I also know of a situation where a brick layer was hauling a large barrel of bricks up to a top floor of..........

Turbo6man, generally, far as I have noticed, you give fairly good and acurate advice. However in this instance I have to disagree. The Road Safety Act is an act adopted then modified by every state to suite their own needs. You can be charged with offences under the Road Safety Act when on a "highway". A highway is defined as a "road or road related area". If this is looked up people may be surprised by what a "road related area: covers, and these days the definition in saome places streches the wording of the act too. Lumpy, your example is Culpable Driving. That's one step below murder, VERY different. The offence described here is called Careless Driving in Victoria and it is, sort of, one step above a burnout. I have charged people with Careless Driving before and penalties have ranged from a 6 month Suspension of licence and a small ($400.00) fine to a 12 disqualification of licence and a $1200 fine. There are no provisions under the act for a term of imprisionment though (As far as I know. Not 100% on the last point). BA_Turbs

That happens on American TV shows. Not quite that easy in Australia to just blanket check everyone that works for the company. However, if there was some other facter that made one employee stand out from the others (ie A loose comment to another employee, etc). Best of Luck Joe, with a crime this high profile you will have the best working on it. If only the police were allowed to pursue if they saw them!

I got a message from Geea and was going to come along tonight but have ended up working and the Over time is too good to pass up. Have a good'n lads& lasses

"Protect and Serve"

Spam. Popular english 'meat' or combination there of. Originally American bought to England during last stages of the Great War. Shortened form of Spiced Ham. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you look under SPAM in the Encyclopedia of Made-up Facts SPAM is defined as: Something Posing As Meat.

Next time this happens, just keep pushing random buttons on the phone. A lot. With most (if not all, I haven't encountered one it doesn't work on) the software at the other end has an anurism and puts you through to someone. Might not be who you need to speak to, but at least you can confirm there's actually someone there.

Anyone seen Team America - World Police? "America! Yeah!" If they change their anthem to that, can't go wrong.

Great defence! If it was me I'd attempt to write you out of a prang for that! Solid Gold! Glenn. how can you hate the word moist? Ask Daddy Glenn to explain how much fun can be had in MOIST regions of the body. You're old enough to have that talk now I think.

Well I can see the problem straight away, they've included the S-Pack as a sports ute. If there was a section for sales figures on "Boat anchors with 4 wheels shaped like an SS ute but with only 6 cylinders" then the figures would have meaning. The S-Pack a sports ute !! What is journalism coming to?

That was a mission. Lost my completed text TWICE before I could post it and had to start again. Shouldn't be any mistakes in it, its the bloody Mk III version! Glad I got that off my chest. Stupid mouse with stupid browser "back" button on the side.

Ani, The option of "Waste of time, they're unmarked for a reason" should have been added. There is no way consulting a website will give away an unmarked police car. I drive around in a marked divisional van, the VicPol vans stick out like the proverbial, and also marked sedans and people will not see me, let alone in an unmarked car. There are ways to spot unmarked cars, such as looking for the silhouette of the covert lights, in rural areas extra arials for SMR and UHF (VHF?? What ever band it is we use). Other things like police cars are part of a fleet, they buy lots at the same time, for instance there were heaps of police falcons with the rego RVG-??? and RZY-???. Also, a common start for Late model camira regos was SEH-???. The other day I was driving on a freeway on the other side of Melbourne when there was an unmarked Falcon in the right hand lane. The vehicle was slowly overtaking another vehicle in the left lane. Being the Zen master of patience that I am, I moved in closer after a while getting very bored with being stuck. The car moved over and I booted it, and realised about one second mater that I was looking at an unmarked police car. Should have known straight away, the extra arial, two blokes in bad white shirts (detectives) in the front seats. No grief from it (The day the CIU does a vehicle intercept for a traffic offence is the day I start working for free). I basically never use unmarked vehicles, and infact have none attached to General Duties where I work (or anywhere for that matter), but I do work around them every day. If I couldn't spot it, I don't think anyone was going to. Victoria police has a fleet of 2000 cars lets say. It would either be the largest or second largest fleet of vehicles in Australia, moot point really, as VicPol, NSW Police and QLD Police would have the largest three fleets in the country. So assume 2000 cars each, 6,000 cars. About 15% unmarked, that 900 registrations of unmarked cars to remember whilst driving on a trip up the eastern coast (unless you're in a police car and can check the rego whilst driving ). I know most trips are local, but then, if you're only local, most people know what unmarked cars the local coppers have anyway, so a rego is pointless. Also,that is an estimate on the low side, I know the VicPol actually has a larger fleet than that. By all means, go for your website and I would even offer whatever limited information it would be appropriate for me to provide. Said in the friendliest way possible: Its a complete waste of time. JMHOSSWYLIDRCSLATFTF Antony PS - This is genuinely my opinion. I have no reason to tow a company line. The company certainly does not do its members any favours.

And me with that line!

When my cousin bought his WRX hatch a couple of years ago he faxed every Subaru dealer in the state with his options/colour/spec etc and said if you want to quote fax back. He already had his finance organised. It ended up being a local dealer that faxed back the cheapest quote too because he had had dealing with them before. Saved him some flash though.

Is it the same as the Ford? Forward for downshift and back for up shift? The old man's Honda Euro feels bizarre and very unnatural to drive because its the other way around. I believe Audis are also.

Having driven standard model Falcons and Commodores at their limit in "controlled" and "uncontrolled" (ie Avalon Airport Runway with track setup/ Public Roads going to hot jobs) I can say that these cars, when pressed, are fast enough and capable enough for anything that you are doing lawfully. It is also quite extraordinary seeing what a professional driver can do with these cars. I doubt people will agree with me on this, but I believe that a faster/more powerful engine often covers up, and infact allows, a lack of driving skill. My point is, a standard model Falcon with an automatic transmission will out perform its driver 99% of the time. I've seen it. These cars don't have much grunt in a straight line compared to an XR6T, XR8 or SS, nor do they have the suspension advantages offered by the sports themed vehicles, yet, they are great fun to drive hard through twisty bits of road when you can really let them work. The point of that little OT rant, I would have to say I much prefer a car that has the cornering prowess before straight line speed. Excepting what a massively skilled task it is to launch a car, particularly a turbo, quickly without going into wheel spin or bogging down, there isn't much more to driving in a straight line than "keep eyes open, push pedal to floor". My parents have just bought a Mazda MX5 Turbo. The thing has an intercooler that looks about the same size as one on an XR6 Turbo..... That is a 1:43 scale model of one. It goes ok in a striaght line, but nothing like the Turbo or similar big Aussie sedans. Throw corners at it and its like a go-cart. The thing is mind blowing. There is just no way possible that a mortal (read as: non professional) driver could ever extract close to what the chassis of that car is capable of. The "massive" 17" x 225 tyres give so much grip no matter how hard you brake on asphault, you can't get the ABS to activate. Conclusion: A car that can handle well is 1,000 times more fun if the driver has the capability to drive it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh ship I've missed that razor sharp wit. That is just so stupid I can't stop laughing. I do however echo the original sentiments, good work Lumpy and all the best to Pashen and his family. Antony