Azzman460

yeah your exactly right, sorry that was written bad, but what I meant was exactly that, instead of getting the current I6 to meet the new emissions laws, they have chosen the cheaper option of getting the V6 in. They claim the new engine cant meet the new laws, which it can't in its current state but with some further engineering it could. Anyways, that's the way it goes I guess.

I dont think emissions has anything to do with it. When you have an engine with double overhead independant vct, variable intake manifold, drive by wire, 6 speed transmission, the next best thing is direct injection which could easily be done on the almighty ford 6, the only reason the V6 is coming out is because its a hell of a lot cheaper.

I think an important thing to remember as well is that RWKW is not a measurement. A chassis dyno cannot measure RWKW as such, its actually a calculation that it makes by measuring the TORQUE of the engine compared to the speed of the REAR WHEELS at a given ENGINE speed (RPM). This is why you may get different results on a dyno run if your using different dyno's, depending on how the dyno is set up and the calibration you may get varying power results.

G'day guys. I am converting a BA Engine to a turbo. Now I'm going to put F6 Turbo gear onto it, and a 6 speed manual transmission. It will get an atomic rebuild kit. Then its going into my BF MKII Ute. Now to my thinking would a BA MKII TURBO PCM programmed for a 6 Speed transmission do the job? or would I have to get a BF MKII TURBO PCM? and if I did that would it work with the BA motor. Any help would be really appreciated as this is really hard to figure out haha. Cheers

thank the turbo lords it was picked up early, I could imagine that having severe turbo melting consequences if it wasnt picked up!

ah yeah, hopefully it is just the gasket and not anything worse!

Do you know where its leaking from? sometimes you get a bad sump casting and that causes whats like a knot in a piece of wood but in the metal. Oil will leak out of this from new. This would be my bet on whats happened. Bad luck though on ya new car, hope its back in good condition soon!

Ah yes very nice. What option did you end up going for the turbo conversion or Supercharger?

G'day, digging up an old thread I know haha. Just wondering how you went with the conversion or if you did it at all?

yeah cheers man, nah definately not doing it just because of the money, just something differernt and hella quick haha! it should be a very nice unit when completed.

haha Dillz that little clip is an absolute pissa! top stuff. Yeah buying a T is all good and well, but I love my car and will thoroughly enjoy turboing it myself. Plus if you buy a T then your the same as everyone else that has a T, which isnt a bad thing, but I'm after something a little different and the fact that I can say "I did it myself" is even cooler. Yeah the box is going to be one of the most expensive parts of this project, but having people in the know I can hopefully pick one up for around 3-4k. Mine will be more expensive as I'm putting in a bulletproof bottom end to prevent any nasty things happening and having to pay more dollars again to fix it. And a fancy electronic boost controller. I still find it the cheapest way to make the most power.

You could argue forever about which is better but I guess in the end it comes down to personal preference, what your after from your car and how much your willing to spend! Ellisy let us know what you decide to do in the end!

your both right in saying that about the superchargers, they do make boost all the way through the rev range, however not full boost. And as the argument always is, the turbo uses engine waste to make more power where the supercharger takes away a fair bit of engine power to make more power. That said, the $10,000 you will spend to get a supercharged I6, by CAPA's dyno charts, will get you 250rwkw, where as if you were to spend that much turboing your I6, you could make in excess of 400rwkw. As I said ealier I am planning on spening $6-7000 with new internals (keeping in mind if you supercharge with a kit, the 10k doesnt include any internals) and I will make 300+, I could probably exceed the 350 rwkw mark. In the way of bang for your buck, I think the turbo is definately the way to go.

g'day mate. I have been thinking over the same thing for the last couple of months. After a fair bit of research I finally decided that supercharging was not the way to go. On average by the time your driving around with the kit on and your happy with it you'll probably be out of pocket around $10,000 with the current prices of the S/C kits. I decided to do a N/A to Turbo conversion. At the moment a have a turbo, manifold, intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, crossover piping, airbox, oil + water lines, pretty much everything I need to do the conversion and I'm only out $2000. Now I could only find 2 people who have done this succesfully and have had good results (on the forums). I am going to go a step further and buying an aftermarket electronic boost controller and replacing the pistons and conrods for extra strength and my own piece of mind. As for the T5 gearbox, no way. It will not handle the extra power at all. I'm opting for a 6 speed manual conversion with a typhoon or aftermarket twin plate cluth and flywheel. The diff, will eventually be a turbo or xr8 diff. Once done and on the road I'm looking for around 300rwkw or more at around $6-7000. I found this was the much better option as that's pretty much a full car rebuild haha. Included in that price is a nizpro flash and custom tune which is the most important part of this project! Hope I helped you out!

ah that's ok, I'm just wondering wether I should do it now. My N/A BF is receiving a turbo soon so I might paint the block while the engines out of the car in pieces haha

yeah this is true, it does look a lot better. I know you can buy specific paint for doing this, Did you just use any old paint or did you use the special paint?

G'day, I think you'll find that more than just the block is rusty on all new falcons no matter what (unless they're painted of course) Have a look at you upper wishbones (just under the front guards) they are rusty on every new falcon just like the blocks. I'm sure its the same with other manufacturers as well. as for painting the block I'd tend to agree with the earlier post making the point that you want to extract heat from the block to atmosphere, especially when you start modding your car, the last thing you need is extra heat. Painting the block would cause the block to retain some of that heat. I'm just going to leave mine how it is. If it was more beneficial for the blocks to be painted, ford would paint them.

yeah true but IMO leaving them on there looks cheap and is cheap

I think if you look hard enough you will find elastic bands all over your car. Correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive they are sued during the build of the cars in the plant for some reason, I'm not exactly sure why. But when the part is on the car they just leave the elastic bands there which is why you will find heaps of them all over your new car. Nothing has been or is being held together by these so dont worry about it, just get rid of them as you find them so it doesnt look so bad haha. Pretty poxy I know but like an earlier post said, Welcome to ford cost cutting.

The crank is the only thing that is that same. The XR6 TURBO motor uses different rods to the petrol I6 But the SAME rods and the LPG I6. This goes for the typhoon as well. The pistons in the turbo motor are different altogether. I'm not sure how they lower they're compressioin ratio, probable a mix between pistons and combustion chamber design. The other difference in the TURBO motors to the N/A Motors is the exhaust valves and the valve springs. I'm sure there is a few more though. I'm also doing the N/A to turbo conversion and I'm looking for a decent set of rods and pistons to put into my I6. I may go with the stock falcon LPG I6 rods as these will do the job but I may be in the quest for more power sooner than I think haha

Hey guys, I'm doing a N/A to turbo conversion on my bf and I was wondering if anybody knew of a good place in Melbourne that can do a custom re-flash and tune for me. I'll need them to re-flash the PCM to accomodate the turbo and also tune the car so it doesnt run into det. I want it to be done by someone that knows what they're doing as the last thing I need is for my car to start running into detonation! I live in the western suburbs of melbourne. any help would be great, cheers.

I am planning to turbo my N/A 6 BF MKII Ute with a 5 speed manual and 3.45 LSD. I want to put a 6 speed transmission out of a turbo onto it (most likely with a twin plate clutch and new flywheel) but to do this I'll need to upgrade my tailshaft. Will my ute have the provisions for the center bearing to bolt up to the floorpan? and will my diff be able to accomodate the turbo driveshaft or will I need to change the coupling? Is there anything else you guys would recommend to do while I'm at it? Any help is greatly appreciated!