well, the test drive never happened yesterday, spent all arvo mon and some of yesterday morning cleaning, polishing and detailing, then had some work dramas which meant I couldnt go in. Was all keen to go in this thurs, then last night when parked in a car park, I looked at my ute, all clean and polished (1st time in months, well since my wedding in Sept!!) and got all sentimental about it. Thought to myself, silly to get rid of it just yet when I still really enjoy it. In reality, the car in question was a bit of a mystery, the dealer couldnt tell me anything about it, like mods etc, and I was a bit hesitant to go for a car that is so easiliy modded without knowing what had been done. That and the fact that if I wait 6 months or so till the FG is released, I will have paid off an extra $4k on my ute, meaning I will have more bargaining power, maybe even on the new model, if not a runout BF. So, unfortunately I will have to wait to become a legitimate member of the turbo club, but thankyou all for your help and advice, this is one of the best forums going around and I might just stick around if its ok to have a lowly V8 driver on here!! And Derek, cheers for the offer mate, sounds like a weapon you got there. If your ever down Kiama (I work in Kiama) or Shoalhaven Heads/Berry way let us know, ill see what a real sweet ride looks like!! Thanks to you all, see you round the streets Paul