9K might be a little high but with a forged crank I recon 8K should be doable! the LS V8 guys rev past that and they have longer strokes (I think). back to the twin turbo, what hosuings are the standard turbos?? I have seen alot of the HIGH BHP skylines are using GT3540s. might be worth looking at these turbos. if the A/Rs are similar then the stock turbos might work! and being internally gated would help with packaging. also have a look at Tial (I think) stainless steel housings. they are supposed to be smaller, lighter, keeep the heat better, spool faster and come with 3inch V-Band conections going both in and out the hotside of the trubo!! also what size do people go for when using a BIG single?? GT42/45/47??????? I think a pair of GT35rs would work fantastic on the 4ltr! fast response with a SH!T load of top end cappability. Cheers Chris.