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2010 will see the end of current format I6 and Boss no matter what due to EuroIV Emissions control. I6 may go direct injection, but unlikely as they (Fraud) already have the V6 twin turbo planned from the US powerplant, and will unlikely ever match the power and torque of the I6, so the F6 as we know it is likely to be canned long term. Same goes for V8 Boss is dead - Coyote will be the next platform. They're alloy, stll have overhead cams, but lighter and higher revving, and with force fed air, should scream. If they release a revised F6 with the current I6 retuned to 320+Kw and 600NM, it will have to be before July and Euro IV comes in, and absolutely will have to come with 265+ rear tread and beefier lower suspension as standard to put the power down. As more than 60% of FPV sales are V8's most likely scenario is a broader range of Coyote based V8's N/A, supercharged and a single model V6 with the twin snails. The V8's I'm guessing will need to be the big sellers to bring FPV's fight to HSV.

Jeez FPV sure went all out on the photography budget for this one - digital camera snaps in the rear parking lot! At least they tried to edit the white ute out of background in the top pic. They gotta lift their game when "launching" new cars. Their competition wouldn't even let spy photos come out like that!

Noice - you've got a choice car there I reckon sitting in that with the V8 sound under the bonnet, would be make it difficult to go home at night!

My average is 10.5L/100. That's with a mix of highway (40%), many long (600-700Km return trip) mountain climbs/descents (40%), and some town driving (20%) over the last 10,000kms. I cruise at the speed limits on the highway, and give it plenty on the mountain trips, around town -whatever the traffics doing/or the speed limit. On the highways - instant consumption shows about 7.5 L/100km when the road is flat at 100Km/h, the rest of the time of course it varies hugely depending on terrain and what the right foot's doing, but averages all out at 10.5. The exact same driving pattern was showing an average of 11.5 at about the 25,000Km mark, so it's getting a bit better efficiency now. My car is stock BFMkII F6 with ZF Auto and with about 55'000kms on it, running 95 or 98 Octane and Valvoline Synpower 10W50 full synthetic.

That will be a sweet ride. After reading June 08's Wheels review of the new GT engine and the Dyno test Vs the GTS - it outperformed the LS3 in power, torque, heat stability and consistently gave better figures. They have got alot right with this engine. It may not give you whiplash like an F6, but with plenty of power and torque for touring it is one hell of a unit - not to mention the sound. I think I'll be looking at one next time round. Have fun!

It certainly opened up debate - and you will always get opinions at every end of the spectrum. But it sounds like you're making the right move at this stage - the FG F6 is a superior car in every way. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Hmmm – had to add my 2c Sure you can pump stacks of power out of either a T or an F6. But if your going to mod anyway – you’ll get better results from the F6 everytime. What FPV gives you over a standard XR6T, and a generally better finished vehicle overall, for the extra coin – no question WORTH IT. F6 air box with dual Ram Air intakes F6 high strength conrods F6 oil cooler F6 engine management system Garrett GT3540 turbo Aluminium air-to-air intercooler FPV high-flow twin 2 1/4” performance exhaust ZF 6-speed high-torque automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift Performance Brakes - 355 x 32mm cross drilled and slotted front rotors with Brembo 4 piston calipers and 328 x 26mm cross drilled rear rotors with red single piston calipers High capacity in-tank fuel pump FPV Sports gauges (with oil pressure & turbo boost readouts) Premium audio system with colour TFT display screen, 6-disc in-dash CD, 6 speakers, 150 watt amplifier & 150 watt sub-woofer Prestige Interior Command Centre finished in satin alloy with Premium audio system, dual-zone climate control and TFT colour screen + Trip computer Outside temperature display Rear occupant heating / cooling vents finished in satin alloy Unique FPV Performance steering wheel Unique FPV manual gear knob (manual only) Unique FPV automatic performance shifter (automatic only) Scuff plate inserts with FPV logo FPV build number badge with unique identifier FPV instrument graphics with blue illumination Wanky FPV starter button FPV front fascia with F6 splitter in accent colour and Titanium finish grille mesh featuring FPV lettering FPV upper grille in Titanium finish with F6 badge Front fog lamps with contrasting F6 accent colour bezel FPV side skirts with flutes in contrasting F6 accent colour FPV rear fascia with contrasting F6 grille mesh and accent colour Unique F6 rear spoiler with centre strut and LED stop light FPV fully integrated alarm with battery back-up FPV ID Datadot Identification All that worth an extra $20K? OF Course it is - you do the Math. And these things are NOT all options on an XR6T, they only come from an FPV F6 Then the R-SPEC .... Now at the time, these cars were bought on road at the same or less than a standard F6 thanks to Fraud’s desperation and rebates so those that think these were 5 or 10k more – your’re a little misguided, and looking at list price is academic. Even now you can buy one for similar price to a std F6. RSPEC STANDARD inclusions. FPV Leather Sports seats - Leather and suede-feel bolsters, FPV logo embroidery and F6 silver stitching TrakPak lowered Performance suspension. 5-spoke 19”x 8” alloy wheels in Thunder Storm Grey with machined face, fitted with DunlopSP Sport Maxx 245/35ZR19 tyres. MP3 accessory port, R-Spec Floor Mats – yes whoopee R-Spec Limited number build plate Those Extras for Nothin – Worth it?? Uh yep. It simply sits and looks better on the road, handles better – without spending an extra cent, and for nothing over a standard F6 - Value?? And the fact theres only 300 built – there will always fewer than the standard F6’s and a sh*teload less than T’s on the road or on Carsales anytime. Everyone who drives one knows this, those who don’t are in denial. Soooo F6 vs XR6T (with a spend of 20k worth of mods) – No Brainer F6. And if you want that NOW, go the RSpec, it’s extra value for nothing, but then be prepared to hang on to it. The only real question here for the chap who started this poll with a million questions is timing – Go for the F6 RSpec now OR wait for some second hand F6 310’s. IMO I’d go with the latter, your Xr6T will not lose that much more in 6-12 months, you will lose more in changing twice. Then when you get the FG, tune it, put some Teins on it and you’ll have a rocketship. It’s just a question of can you wait – no one else can answer that. Nuff said.

If you drive like a loon in suburban streets - first off your're an accident waiting to happen and a danger to others and second you're going to use a lot of fuel! Dah! WTF is the diff if you use 20, 22, 23 24 or 25 or bloody 26L or bloody more - who gives a flying F*** how much fuel you use unless you drive economically and are looking for ECONOMY! Expensive Daewoo Drivers! BTW mine uses 45L/100k when I flog it on the track - does that help?

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They need to wake the F*** up! How the hell are they going to make headway in this market by behaving like that. What a joke. FPV

A freind of mine Bob, who's from England, often visits his mother who lives in Darbishire, in the UK. He was visiting his mum recently, and she notified him that she has some new pakistani neighbours, who are extremely freindly. She said they try too hard to be neighbourly and are constantly asking her over for drinks or afternoon tea, she finds it quite a drain. Suddenly there was a knock at the door - it was the neighbour, the husband of the couple had come over to invite them over for morning tea. Bob's mum gestured to him, and whispered in his ear, "oh go'on, could you go over for me - go over there and appease him, I can't be bothered". Bob politely accepted the invitation, and said to the neighbour, "Oh, OK, I'll come over, but just for a few minutes". So they went next door, to find the neighbours wife holding a three month old infant boy. She asked Bob in a heavy Pakistani accent "would you like to hold him? Go on, go on, he's likes being held...go on..." So bob agreed, sheepishly, holding his arms aout to take the baby. "Rock him, rock him" Said the mother of the child, gesturing... The father looked on intently to make sure Bob was doing it properly. "Now, wind him, wind him" the mother said in her Pakistani accent, and gesturing, "go on, wind him, wind him" "Oh dear" said Bob, "That's a bit harsh, how about I just give him a dead leg!"

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Them good 'ol boys, well their gonna have a reeeeeeaaal geeeeerd time. I'm sure they all love a bit of OJ!