thanks for the opinions lads. I was sorta leaning towards CHRPN, even though its not a fav. wasnt looking at putting them on till I had the power to spin em thru most the gears though. probly not what most ppl r after but love sliding thru changes. then I was thinking ppl will just think im a "wa*ker' wit those plates. guess each to their own though.. so yeh probably going with GOTPSI or CHRPN... cheers for the link '1 of 5'