Mondie, not sure how long you have been lurking in this forum, but this debate has raged since the forum started. We've heard every variation possible and one of our group - LionHeart has driven a Turbo and it apparently did not have T/C. I for one would like both but have resigned myself to only getting one so I'll specify T/C on my order. If LSD is there as well when it arrives, it will be a bonus. The pity of it all is that Ford should have cleared this up once and for all ages ago