Scotty and Vik, comment noted HAHAHAH but the chopsticks are good for one reason. Every time I give a WRX driver a bit of a CHHHH, they run me........poor bastards, they always loose (have we got a post on cars that have fallen to the ALLMIGHTY T) ?? Nah, its not all that loud, ill get over it, initially I wanted a turbo for the sound, ive been a V8 man till now. I think its just a stage till I get it out of the system Vik, mine is manual, so I dont need the tran cooler. As for the oil cooler, where would that go, what does that do, how much does it cost, where can I get it done, and does anybody have any pics of how it looks ??? (sorry about the 21 questions) Thanks for all your help guys, I feel much better now knowing that this is normal behaviour for a turbo