turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 22y 1m Location: Toowoomba Posted 18/04/04 05:52 PM Share Posted 18/04/04 05:52 PM Does removing the centre muffler give the xr6t more go? Does the sound of the car without a centre muffler sound nice or is it just loud and droney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-carty nutter Member 1,966 Member For: 21y 2m 20d Location: Wagga Wagga Posted 18/04/04 08:57 PM Share Posted 18/04/04 08:57 PM I wouldnt mind knowing what the xr8 without the center muffler sounds like, so while the subject is here, does anyone know? is it a good muscle v8 sound? or as said about, droney kinda thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrasH Bloody Orange Team (BOT) Donating Members 872 Member For: 21y 9m 3d Gender: Male Location: Canberra, Australia Posted 18/04/04 09:00 PM Share Posted 18/04/04 09:00 PM Does removing the centre muffler give the xr6t more go? Does the sound of the car without a centre muffler sound nice or is it just loud and droney? That topic has been discussed before on the forum (just do a search). Basically it does give a slight power increase and a different sound, but after a few weeks, some have found that the car get's sluggisah and worse than "stock". Due to the fact that the computer in the car learns and if something is not quite right for a time it just decides to make the car go like a dog.. However, some people have done this and it's stayed good for 1,000's of km's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 3m 8d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 19/04/04 01:12 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 01:12 AM Also, according to APS, it makes your car unroadworthy by being over the 96Db noise limit. Leave it on I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QikSmurf Member 246 Member For: 21y 8m 13d Posted 19/04/04 09:32 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 09:32 AM isn't that funny,...............APS are not endorsing a mod that almost matches their phase 1 $1800 cost mod..............mmm wonder why.Look, I have had it done. It is definately worth doing. In the end its up to you. Those who have found it worthwile sware by it. Those that are to scared find negative things to say about it.Choice is yours.BTW.. with centre exhaust and air intake mods, mine runs 13.77sec 1/4 mile in auto sss mode.Friend with APS phase 1 ran on the same night ( thre seperate passes ) 14.10 1/4 mile in sss auto.If you want the time sheets, I can fax them or e-mail them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown BA In Your Face Member 6,195 Member For: 22y 16d Gender: Male Location: Peninsula Posted 19/04/04 09:36 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 09:36 AM (edited) Well done QikSmurf glad your results worked is that with a chip or not BTW ...l say stuff what everyone else thinks Edited 19/04/04 09:38 AM by Blown BA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scootre Guests Posted 19/04/04 09:38 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 09:38 AM isn't that funny,...............APS are not endorsing a mod that almost matches their phase 1 $1800 cost mod..............mmm wonder why. How the hell does removing your centre muffler equate to the Phase I kit? I'll have a glass of what you're having thanks... if there's any left in the bottle. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBO4LT Member 1,533 Member For: 21y 7m 7d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 19/04/04 09:58 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 09:58 AM I tried it before I got my aps kit and it did sound louder, a bit droney for me and crackly on over run, I didnt really notice any power increase however mine would sometimes over boost when it was removed. Its cheap enough to try, give it a go.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 22y 18d Posted 19/04/04 10:17 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 10:17 AM isn't that funny,...............APS are not endorsing a mod that almost matches their phase 1 $1800 cost mod..............mmm wonder why.Look, I have had it done. It is definately worth doing. In the end its up to you. Those who have found it worthwile sware by it. Those that are to scared find negative things to say about it.Choice is yours.BTW.. with centre exhaust and air intake mods, mine runs 13.77sec 1/4 mile in auto sss mode.Friend with APS phase 1 ran on the same night ( thre seperate passes ) 14.10 1/4 mile in sss auto.If you want the time sheets, I can fax them or e-mail them to you.Yeah well I think that's funny and sad at the same time. If you actually conduct back to back dyno tests on the same car, same fuel, and same ambient conditions I and can confidently say that the removal of the centre muffler (only) achieves absolutely zero in terms of additional power, though it does increase the noise level dramatically. There is a real difference between additional power and additional noise, and both can be measured accurately.As for your comment on the phase I upgrade we have run 13.41 @ 105 mph with a stock xr6t (other than the unichip upgrade) its the mph which shows the power not just the ET. PeterAPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QikSmurf Member 246 Member For: 21y 8m 13d Posted 19/04/04 10:20 AM Share Posted 19/04/04 10:20 AM turbo4lt,when you had the APS kit fitted, did you notice a significant improvement.also, did you put the centre muffler back on again when you got the chip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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